Rumour: Joel Eriksson Ek

[Sativika]

https://www.nhltraderumor.com/nhl-trade-rumors-minnesota-wild-vancouver-canucks-eriksson-ek-kuzmenko-hoglander/?fbclid=IwAR0WBQye9pJtODg4AwQs5kGgx2z6TKumGzWZcISaS7Q6EYMTekzH9apnuIw

 

Whadda' y'all think of this? He's not a right hander. Still, he'd be an asset of note for us. Thoughts?

[PhillipBlunt]

Kuzmenko, Hoglander, and a 1st is a massive overpayment for Eriksson Ek. Kuzmenko alone should get it done, with maybe a 2nd round pick. 

 

Hoglander is a great player, who's worth far more to the Canucks as a player on the roster, than as an add in on a trade.

 

Trading to two roster players and the 2024 1st rounder should be for a top 4 RHD or a first line forward, not for a 2C. 

[Johngould21]

Just now, PhillipBlunt said:

Kuzmenko, Hoglander, and a 1st is a massive overpayment for Eriksson Ek. Kuzmenko alone should get it done, with maybe a 2nd round pick. 

 

Hoglander is a great player, who's worth far more to the Canucks as a player on the roster, than as an add in on a trade.

 

Trading to two roster players and the 2024 1st rounder should be for a top 4 RHD or a first line forward, not for a 2C. 

If I'm PA and Minny is calling asking for that in return, I hope he hangs up. Kuz and a fourth is my ask.

[PhillipBlunt]

Just now, Johngould21 said:

If I'm PA and Minny is calling asking for that in return, I hope he hangs up. Kuz and a fourth is my ask.

Agreed. 

[Bob Long]

5 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Kuzmenko, Hoglander, and a 1st is a massive overpayment for Eriksson Ek. Kuzmenko alone should get it done, with maybe a 2nd round pick. 

 

Hoglander is a great player, who's worth far more to the Canucks as a player on the roster, than as an add in on a trade.

 

Trading to two roster players and the 2024 1st rounder should be for a top 4 RHD or a first line forward, not for a 2C. 

 

Kuzy and our late (hopefully very very late) 1st is an unperpayment for E-Ek. Adding Hogs might flip it to over, but I'd do it for the monster C depth. 

[Alflives]

[flat land fish]

3 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

Kuzy and our late (hopefully very very late) 1st is an unperpayment for E-Ek. Adding Hogs might flip it to over, but I'd do it for the monster C depth. 

Based on Minny's lack of cap room going forward they will want guys on ELC's.  Something like Raty and a 1st or Raty and Lekkerimaki or Raty, Bruskewicz(sorry on spelling)and a draft pick

[HorvatToBaertschi]

Ek is a hell of a player. I'm not giving up Hoglander in any trade, personally. 

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, flat land fish said:

Based on Minny's lack of cap room going forward they will want guys on ELC's.  Something like Raty and a 1st or Raty and Lekkerimaki or Raty, Bruskewicz(sorry on spelling)and a draft pick

Zero chance Allvin moves Lekkerimaki. Won’t move Raty either. 

[I.Am.Ironman]

I'd like to keep Hogs. But I would do something around Kuz + 1st for Eriksson-Ek + Maroon.

[flat land fish]

8 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Zero chance Allvin moves Lekkerimaki. Won’t move Raty either. 

Need to tap into your ruthless side Ala the golden knights.  The odds are against every prospect hitting.  So if you can convert assets into top6 forwards or top 4 d you do it.

[Denman Dragon]

Love the Hog, but would totally sacrifice him for a good 2C center on a long term good contract to up our Stanley Cup run. Add Pods to that line for a solid defensive 2nd line with offensive capabilities.

[VegasCanuck]

From what I saw in this article, there is NO rumor that anyone is talking about in an official capacity, it is them making a suggestion that this would be a good trade to make. They didn't indicate that Minnesota has any interest in moving JEE.

[Crabcakes]

7 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said:

From what I saw in this article, there is NO rumor that anyone is talking about in an official capacity, it is them making a suggestion that this would be a good trade to make. They didn't indicate that Minnesota has any interest in moving JEE.

I don't see Minny moving their best centre, who is just entering his prime.  26 years old.  Even if they're rebuilding.

 

 

[DeltaSwede]

Isn't this website super unreliable and 100% made up rumors for clicks? 

[lionized27]

12 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said:

From what I saw in this article, there is NO rumor that anyone is talking about in an official capacity, it is them making a suggestion that this would be a good trade to make. They didn't indicate that Minnesota has any interest in moving JEE.

Yeah, I'm also reading more speculation than rumor.

[Mike Vanderhoek]

Minnesota is not considering trading Ek, Guerin loves him and signed his latest contract.

 

Further, Vancouver is not offering a Kuzmenko, Hoglander and a 1st.

 

If Ek were to be acquired it would be Vancouver being persistent in discussions and creating a market for Ek much like they did when they targeted Hronek.

 

As I've mentioned a dozen times, he is the perfect fit in Vancouver's top six and would be fantastic if brought in to this core long term.

 

 

[Darius]

I really like this player, big center that can play second line minutes ...looks like a 20-30 goal scorer (on pace for like 30+ this year).  He is young and on a good contract.  Getting a player like this will allow them to keep the 6409 line together long term and will legitimately give the Canucks two top lines .  The third line can go toe to toe with other teams bottom 6 and come out ahead most of the time. 

 

I have no idea what the cost would be.  Why would the wild do this though?

[Dom]

I'm pissed as FUCK if we give up Hoglander. 

[Nucker67]

I don't think Allvin would trade away both Kuzmenko and Hoglander for one guy. That would leave the Canucks short of quality NHL wingers, especially in the Top 6.

 

I'll assume if there is a trade for Eriksson Ek it will be Kuzmenko, but only because the cap works. Just a guess: Kuzmenko, McDonough and a 1st (or something like that) Kuzmenko becomes quick friends with Kaprizov, and they both go on to score many goals.

 

Pettersson - Miller - Boeser

Hoglander - Eriksson Ek - Mikheyev

Joshua - Blueger - Garland

X - Suter - Lafferty

Aman

Karlsson

 

I still think the 4th needs someone with size/toughness. Does Podkolzin possibly slot in down the stretch?

 

 

 

 

[Blitz-Pix]

The reality is any move we do has to be money in money out.

 

So if we're taking on $5 million roughly $5 million has to be going out....ala Kuzzy or Myers 

Adding an additional $1.1 million (Hoglander) to the money going out makes no sense to Minny that has its own Cap Hell to deal with. 

It would have to be Kuzzy or Myers plus draft picks and or prospects. IMO

 

I'm really not sure any of this makes sense for Minny though as they'll want to stay competitive and taking Ek away makes them weaker down the middle...unless thier trying to make room for one of their prospects thats on an ELC. Personally I don't see this trade scenario working out... but you never know.  I just don't want to retain salary on any deal. If we're going to move our 1st in a deal this year then I'd hope we hld onto our recent picks *Lekker, Willander, Hunter, Petterson as we;re gonna need those ELC's and talent to replenish our pipeline.   

 

Edited January 16 by Blitz-Pix

[NucksIn50]

I personally don’t want any players on the Canucks with the name Eriksson, it brings back nightmares.

[MeanSeanBean]

2 things. Minny wouldn't trade him for that package, and I'm shocked with the response from people here that Hoglander is the deal breaker in this trade?

 

I like Hoglander as much as the next guy, but Joel is only a few years older and is currently one of the best 2 way centers in the league. Dude value is far more then a late first, a middle 6 winger at his peak (currently a 4th line) and a struggling winger who's having a hard time staying in the lineup this year.

 

If we somehow managed to steal JEE for that package it would be an robbery. Adding him to our 2nd line, imo makes an instant contender, maybe cup favorite.

Edited January 16 by MeanSeanBean

[higgyfan]

49 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

Kuzy and our late (hopefully very very late) 1st is an unperpayment for E-Ek. Adding Hogs might flip it to over, but I'd do it for the monster C depth. 

 

People are underrating E-Ek massively.  On a team like the Canucks, he will be exactly what they

need.  Great 2-way game, with good offensive upside, while playing on an offensively underwhelming

team, just turned 26yr on great contract ($5.25x5).  All this for a LW that isn't able to fit onto his team,

at least +25oa pick and Hogs, who doesn't seem to impress the coach (although he is likely the best

part of the package.

 

Great potential for becoming the forward version of Hronek.

 

Problem is, unless they're planning to tank, why would Minni move their top C?

[N7_Gyoza]

1 hour ago, flat land fish said:

Based on Minny's lack of cap room going forward they will want guys on ELC's.  Something like Raty and a 1st or Raty and Lekkerimaki or Raty, Bruskewicz(sorry on spelling)and a draft pick

Based on our lack of cap room going forward WE will want guys on ELC's let's keep all 3 of these guys