People Need to Relax about the Cap Situation

[HKSR]

I see so many people here worrying that we can't re-sign Hronek, Joshua, and Zadorov... it's so far from the case.  Here are ACTUAL numbers with extensions on the high end for all 3.  Notice even when OEL's big cap hit comes into effect that it's nicely offset by our young guns moving up from the farm (2 years from now).

 

Hronek with $7.8M AAV extension.

Joshua with $3.5M AAV extension.

Zadorov with $4.5M AAV extension.

 

Next year we have nearly $8M in cap space to bring in a top 6 forward or top 4 defenceman.

 

2 and 3 years from now when the big OEL cap hits come into play, we still have millions to work with (and that's assuming Hoglander signs a big $5.5M AAV extension).

 

So like I said.  RELAX.  This team that is highly competitive will be able to stay together.  We're in good shape for several years.

 

PS - if we manage to trade Mikheyev, we're in even better shape. 

 

Edited April 2 by HKSR

[Gurn]

My Contract Predictions (as of Mar 25th 2024):

Filip Hronek - $7.6M x 8

Nikita Zadorov - $4.25M x 6

Dakota Joshua - $3M x 4

 

6 minutes ago, HKSR said:

Hronek with $7.8M AAV extension.

Joshua with $3.5M AAV extension.

Zadorov with $4.5M AAV extension.

[HKSR]

2 minutes ago, Gurn said:

My Contract Predictions (as of Mar 25th 2024):

Filip Hronek - $7.6M x 8

Nikita Zadorov - $4.25M x 6

Dakota Joshua - $3M x 4

 

haha, like I said, the numbers I used are ones that I feel are in the high end of things.  I think they'll all be lower than what I quoted.  Just wanted to show that even on the high end, we'll be more than fine moving forward.

[Jess]

[Nucker67]

I agree. Now is not the time. Canucks fans have several months before they should panic. 

 

Until then, Cup or bust!

[6of1_halfdozenofother]

Relax?!  I'm on my 5th cup of coffee, and now you tell me to relax!  

[HKSR]

18 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

Relax?!  I'm on my 5th cup of coffee, and now you tell me to relax!  

You're fine... have a 6th... THEN relax. 

[Canuck You]

37 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

Relax?!  I'm on my 5th cup of coffee, and now you tell me to relax!  

At that point you should have just done coke.

[Toni Zamboni]

[Gurn]

1 hour ago, Canuck You said:

At that point you should have just done coke.

 cost is likely similar.

[Alflives]

A lot of us have PTBD. That guy was (and still is) a reason to fret and stew. Imagine if he hadn’t screwed up the cap so much he had the room to sign Petey to around what Hughes came in at? Nope. He needed Beagle and the boys. Moran. 

[Alflives]

1 hour ago, Canuck You said:

At that point you should have just done coke.

[Gurn]

$24,711,666 in cap space

13 players signed

on Cap friendly main page

but on the 'make a team" page it is

$23,211,666 with  a 14 man roster  and Demko in the line up.

need 3 D men to play every night

2 forwards to play every night

1 back up goalie

then the benchwarmers

[Sell.the.team]

2 hours ago, HKSR said:

haha, like I said, the numbers I used are ones that I feel are in the high end of things.  I think they'll all be lower than what I quoted.  Just wanted to show that even on the high end, we'll be more than fine moving forward.

 

maybe your numbers are realistic, maybe they're not.  I guess we will see!  I personally wouldn't be shocked if any one of your proposed signings held out for more $$$ or walked away if that is the max we could offer.  OEL @ just under $5m is going to be painful for 2 years.  Obviously anyone is replaceable (maybe other than Hughes) if they don't want to be here.

[Drakrami]

That's 8million we need to replace the minutes of Myers, Cole, get a 3C, and sign some 4th/3rd liners. 

[HKSR]

12 minutes ago, Drakrami said:

That's 8million we need to replace the minutes of Myers, Cole, get a 3C, and sign some 4th/3rd liners. 

Based on the roster I've indicated:

 

Hoglander-Pettersson-Podkolzin

Mikheyev-Miller-Boeser

Joshua-Suter-Garland

PDG-Aman-Karlsson

 

Hughes-Hronek

Zadorov-Soucy

???-Juulsen

Friedman

 

You can pick and choose who you want to upgrade on with $8M.  The main group is all there though.

 

Personally I'd spend $5M on a top 4 RHD (Tanev? Roy?), and possibly bring Blueger back at $2M.  Leaves $1M in cap space.

 

Hoglander-Pettersson-Podkolzin

Mikheyev-Miller-Boeser

Joshua-Blueger-Garland

PDG-Suter-Karlsson/Aman/Bains/etc

 

Hughes-Hronek

Soucy-Tanev/Roy

Zadorov-Juulsen

Friedman

[Chronic.Canuck]

3 hours ago, HKSR said:

You're fine... have a 6th... THEN relax. 

It's diminishing returns until you hit 100 actually.

 

 

[BPA]

5 hours ago, HKSR said:

I see so many people here worrying that we can't re-sign Hronek, Joshua, and Zadorov... it's so far from the case.  Here are ACTUAL numbers with extensions on the high end for all 3.  Notice even when OEL's big cap hit comes into effect that it's nicely offset by our young guns moving up from the farm (2 years from now).

 

Hronek with $7.8M AAV extension.

Joshua with $3.5M AAV extension.

Zadorov with $4.5M AAV extension.

 

Next year we have nearly $8M in cap space to bring in a top 6 forward or top 4 defenceman.

 

2 and 3 years from now when the big OEL cap hits come into play, we still have millions to work with (and that's assuming Hoglander signs a big $5.5M AAV extension).

 

So like I said.  RELAX.  This team that is highly competitive will be able to stay together.  We're in good shape for several years.

 

PS - if we manage to trade Mikheyev, we're in even better shape. 

 

Need to include Poolman LTIR ($2.5M) next year (2024-2025).

[Canuck You]

2 hours ago, Gurn said:

 cost is likely similar.

It's called a line of credit for a reason..

[Devron]

Here’s the secret. I don’t worry about it one bit. It’s out of my control. I just sit, watch and enjoy 

[HKSR]

6 minutes ago, BPA said:

Need to include Poolman LTIR ($2.5M) next year (2024-2025).

Doesn't change how much we can spend on the starting roster.

[Canuck You]

3 minutes ago, Devron said:

Here’s the secret. I don’t worry about it one bit. It’s out of my control. I just sit, watch and enjoy 

[canucks curse]

2 hours ago, Gurn said:

$24,711,666 in cap space

13 players signed

on Cap friendly main page

but on the 'make a team" page it is

$23,211,666 with  a 14 man roster  and Demko in the line up.

need 3 D men to play every night

2 forwards to play every night

1 back up goalie

then the benchwarmers

I’d trade garland at draft to chi for two 2nds 

he’s at peak value now 

milky value too low and I bet will bounce back 

 

even without trading garland 

 

Hronek 7.5x 8 yrs

joshua 4x 5 yrs 

zads 4.5

tanev 3.75 x 3 yrs 

bluegger 1.75x 3 yrs 

= 21.5

silovs .75 

 

22.25

= 900k left

hogz Petey Brock 

joshuo Miller Garland 

milky Suter Podz 

Bains Bluegger Aman 

 

hughes Hronek 

soucy Tanev

Zads Juulsen

 

Demko 

Silovs 

 

 

still a great team and Podz, hogz, and milky should have better years 

Next year 

defense could be best in nhl

 

 

[OldFaithfulcap]

We should trade for shea weber, get some of that sweet ltir

[canucks curse]

Here’s an interesting idea…

 

trade Brock to ANA Oil’s 1st + Bos 2nd or Ana 3rd

trade Garland to CHI for LA 2nd+ OTT 3rd

sign Reinhardt or J Guentzel