Popular Post Joshua.Guy Posted April 12 Popular Post Posted April 12 I for one am shocked by this news. /s 5 1 3 Quote
Popular Post Coconuts Posted April 12 Popular Post Posted April 12 Hockey fans who don't root for Vegas or Tampa to the NHL: 7 2 Quote
Popular Post Bob Long Posted April 12 Popular Post Posted April 12 Its a Christmas miracle!!! Mark got a new spleen! Mark got a new spleen! 2 7 1 1 Quote
Popular Post gwarrior Posted April 12 Popular Post Posted April 12 Who could have ever see the miraculous recovery just in time for the playoffs. Fuck vegas. 6 2 2 Quote
Popular Post Bob Long Posted April 12 Popular Post Posted April 12 6 minutes ago, gwarrior said: Who could have ever see the miraculous recovery just in time for the playoffs. Fuck vegas. oh we'll see the usual suspects pipe up in the media to defend it, saying that Vegas just was smarter about using the system. But of course, that assumes that integrity and intention has no place in the NHL, which under Gary is doesn't. Vegas planned all of this, they knew spleen boy would be back, and gamed the whole thing. Its bullshit because the injury status is a complete lie. 3 1 2 Quote
RWJC Posted April 12 Posted April 12 Mark Stone Cleared To Return To Practice April 12th, 2024 at 11:50am CST • By Josh Erickson Golden Knights captain Mark Stone has been cleared to return to practice ahead of today’s morning skate, the team announced. He’s been out since sustaining a lacerated spleen on Feb. 20, missing nearly two months and the following 22 games. Vegas moved Stone to standard injured reserve shortly after exiting the lineup and later to LTIR on March 4, a few days before the trade deadline. The increase in cap relief from Stone’s $9.5MM cap hit allowed GM Kelly McCrimmon to go all out, picking up two of the best players on the market in defenseman Noah Hanifin and center Tomáš Hertl, albeit both with significant salary retention from their former clubs. https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/04/mark-stone-cleared-to-return-to-practice.html#ref=home Quote
The Arrogant Worms Posted April 12 Posted April 12 (edited) Who would have thought Edited April 12 by The Arrogant Worms Quote
Coconuts Posted April 12 Posted April 12 So.. anyone still cool with potentially getting Vegas? Quote
Coconuts Posted April 12 Posted April 12 Two things can be true Both the injury and the shenanigans were serious We should have spleen these shenanigans coming 2 1 Quote
HKSR Posted April 12 Posted April 12 Apr 19 2024 Mark Stone is cleared to play! ANOTHER MIRACLE! Apr. 12 2024 Mark Stone is cleared to practice. --- --- --- 2 1 Quote
HKSR Posted April 12 Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Two things can be true Both the injury and the shenanigans were serious We should have spleen these shenanigans coming STFU Seravelli. This is the 3rd fucking year in a row. HUGE EYE ROLL here. 1 1 1 Quote
Popular Post PureQuickness Posted April 12 Popular Post Posted April 12 This is what we suspected all along. I was half expecting the Stone thing to be embellished by Vegas, but it seems to be true here. This is cap circumvention, but of course, the league won't retroactively punish a team for doing 'legal' cap circumvention at that moment. You know, unlike the Luongo cap circumvention which was ALSO legal at the time, but had every intention to circumvent. 1 1 3 Quote
Grandmaster Posted April 12 Posted April 12 I went from being upset at the NHL for allowing this to being upset at our management. They could have easily played this game as well. Dem wasn’t right and Lindholm was playing through injury. We could have shut these guys down, beefed up our team and “play by the rules”. 1 Quote
Popular Post 4petesake Posted April 12 Popular Post Posted April 12 29 minutes ago, gwarrior said: Who could have ever see the miraculous recovery just in time for the playoffs. Fuck vegas. 13 1 Quote
Coconuts Posted April 12 Posted April 12 Just now, HKSR said: STFU Seravelli. This is the 3rd fucking year in a row. HUGE EYE ROLL here. Shenanigans I'm skeptical of the LTIR bit too idk how you fake a spleen injury short of upselling it's severity Quote
Grandmaster Posted April 12 Posted April 12 Just now, PureQuickness said: This is what we suspected all along. I was half expecting the Stone thing to be embellished by Vegas, but it seems to be true here. This is cap circumvention, but of course, the league won't retroactively punish a team for doing 'legal' cap circumvention at that moment. You know, unlike the Luongo cap circumvention which was ALSO legal at the time, but had every intention to circumvent. The NHL is a bush league Quote
PureQuickness Posted April 12 Posted April 12 Just now, Grandmaster said: I went from being upset at the NHL for allowing this to being upset at our management. They could have easily played this game as well. Dem wasn’t right and Lindholm was playing through injury. We could have shut these guys down, beefed up our team and “play by the rules”. We would've likely been punished though. We were heavily punished for the Luongo contract (which was FULLY legal at that time, but was most definitely intended to circumvent) and other teams were hit hard with this too (but not certain teams). A team like Vegas should've in theory been retroactively punished, but they won't. It's like the Devils who had their first round pick given back after forfeiting it for the Kovalchuk contract. Lmfao. 1 Quote
HKSR Posted April 12 Posted April 12 Just now, Coconuts said: Shenanigans I'm skeptical of the LTIR bit too idk how you fake a spleen injury short of upselling it's severity The latter part... I don't doubt he had the injury. I doubt the severity of it. I feel they knew full well that there was a high probability of Stone coming back in time, and just drew things out long enough to circumvent the cap for the 3rd year in a row. 2 1 Quote
Grandmaster Posted April 12 Posted April 12 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: Shenanigans I'm skeptical of the LTIR bit too idk how you fake a spleen injury short of upselling it's severity It’s a corrupt misdiagnoses. Doctors getting paid off. Not hard to do. I just read about this soccer player who did that regularly to get new contracts but never played a high level game. 1 Quote
Coconuts Posted April 12 Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, HKSR said: The latter part... I don't doubt he had the injury. I doubt the severity of it. I feel they knew full well that there was a high probability of Stone coming back in time, and just drew things out long enough to circumvent the cap for the 3rd year in a row. I could see the team doing that, yes 1 minute ago, Grandmaster said: It’s a corrupt misdiagnoses. Doctors getting paid off. Not hard to do. I just read about this soccer player who did that regularly to get new contracts but never played a high level game. I don't even necessarily believe it requires a corrupt misdiagnosis, just the franchise finding ways to milk and draw out the recovery side of it It takes a lot of time to become a doctor and doesn't the NHL do it's own medical inquiry? I can buy the argument that league is corrupt but I'm less convinced by the argument of doctor's being willing to risk their license being commonplace Is it possible? Sure, but I don't personally buy that angle Quote
Master Mind Posted April 12 Posted April 12 8 minutes ago, PureQuickness said: We would've likely been punished though. We were heavily punished for the Luongo contract (which was FULLY legal at that time, but was most definitely intended to circumvent) and other teams were hit hard with this too (but not certain teams). A team like Vegas should've in theory been retroactively punished, but they won't. It's like the Devils who had their first round pick given back after forfeiting it for the Kovalchuk contract. Lmfao. We used the IR loophole back in 2011. Maybe it's something we would have done again this year if we made another trade. 1 Quote
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