RWJC Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Pacific Notes: Marchessault, Smith, Oilers May 28th, 2024 at 4:30pm CST • By Brennan McClain Heading into the offseason, the Vegas Golden Knights have just shy of $900K in cap space with notable players such as Jonathan Marchessault and Chandler Stephenson headed for unrestricted free agency in just over four weeks. Unfortunately for Vegas, even if the organization were to free up cap space on the trade market, they would likely be unable to open up enough flexibility to keep both players. Between the two, Stephenson is not expected to sign for as rich of a contract as Marchessault on the open market, which could entice the Golden Knights to pursue his services instead. Keeping that in mind, Mark Anderson of the Associated Press reported today that Marchessault has still not been approached by Vegas’ front office about a contract extension. It may be a tough pill for both player and team as Marchessault recently completed the highest goal-scoring season of his career. As one of the original ‘misfits’ still on the Golden Knights, Marchessault has been adamant about finishing his career in Nevada. However, due to the financial constraints the team imposed upon itself at this past year’s trade deadline, Marchessault is expected to be wearing another team’s jersey by the start of next season. https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/05/pacific-notes-marchessault-smith-oilers.html#ref=home 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted May 28 Author Share Posted May 28 (edited) Begs the question who else from their roster may be available? Perhaps Whitecloud? Roy? I imagine if they really tried to keep Marchessault they’d let Martinez, Stephenson and Carrier go to UFA? You can bet someone will have an injury or surgery in offseason/camp that they will LTIR to start the season Edited May 28 by RWJC 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 6of1_halfdozenofother Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 Maybe they might want Poolman? 1 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 interesting, but they still have 5.8 mil in LTIR I could see them letting all their current UFAs walk, and see what they can pick up on day 2 or 3 of free agency for cheap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 I expect they'll trade Barbashev and others to make room, especially for Marchessault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 William Karlsson will likely be moved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baratheon Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 What am I missing here? Is Mark Stone not expected to be injured during the preseason? 1 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted May 28 Author Share Posted May 28 1 minute ago, Baratheon said: What am I missing here? Is Mark Stone not expected to be injured during the preseason? Stone amongst others. They knew what they were doing in bringing in Meier. Always a workaround for Gary’s pet project 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Yet there are rumours that Vegas is looking in to the availability of Marner ffs This club and their obvious gamesmanship is insane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive-By Body Pierce Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Between LTIR and tagging, does anyone know their theoretical max cap, as they currently sit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 6 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Yet there are rumours that Vegas is looking in to the availability of Marner ffs This club and their obvious gamesmanship is insane It is truly some fantastic GMing. They go after the biggest player every year and get them. Somehow they squeeze them in. No sentimentality. They play the system they are in and have done an amazing job of it. I don’t like a lot of their players or their team but 5 years they have a cup, 50 we don’t, I will bend any rule almost to breaking for a cup. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Snoop Hogg Posted May 29 Popular Post Share Posted May 29 26 minutes ago, Baratheon said: What am I missing here? Is Mark Stone not expected to be injured during the preseason? If he isn’t, they have some spleening to do. 1 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 18 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said: If he isn’t, they have some spleening to do. Good one @Snoop HoggI see that you are the king of being punny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Well, I 'spose we could take Roy and Barbs off their hands. That would save them 8m if we gave them a 1st and Pods. Maybe add a 2nd...we could probably send a long a prospect too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Next summer Theodore is gonna need a pretty hefty raise too. But my guess is they might just let him walk after they trade for some other 10mil dollar player when Stone meets with his Feb/March doctor. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 go all in TRADE 1 TO VAN Ivan Barbashev (5) x 4 yrs Nic Roy (3) x 3 yrs TO VGK Hoglander (1.1) Podkolzin (1.0) Hirose CAP CHANGE +5.9 TRADE 2 Milky + Klimovich and Woo to CHI for a 6th -4.75 TRADE 3 Hronek for Necas and CAR 2nd 2024 CAP = 23.7+ 4.75 -5.9 = 22.55 Tanev 4.25 x 3 (lol) Myers 2.75 x 3 yrs dillon 3x3 Silovs 1.0 Joshua 3.5 x 6 Necas 6.75 = 21.25 CAP SPACE = 1.3 Barbashev Petey Necas Suter Miller Brock Joshua Roy Garland PDG Aman Bains Hughes Tanev Soucy Myers Dillon Juulsen Demko Silovs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 1 minute ago, canucks curse said: go all in TRADE 1 TO VAN Ivan Barbashev (5) x 4 yrs Nic Roy (3) x 3 yrs TO VGK Hoglander (1.1) Podkolzin (1.0) Hirose CAP CHANGE +5.9 TRADE 2 Milky + Klimovich and Woo to CHI for a 6th -4.75 TRADE 3 Hronek for Necas and CAR 2nd 2024 CAP = 23.7+ 4.75 -5.9 = 22.55 Tanev 4.25 x 3 (lol) Myers 2.75 x 3 yrs dillon 3x3 Silovs 1.0 Joshua 3.5 x 6 Necas 6.75 = 21.25 CAP SPACE = 1.3 Barbashev Petey Necas Suter Miller Brock Joshua Roy Garland PDG Aman Bains Hughes Tanev Soucy Myers Dillon Juulsen Demko Silovs VGK will get way better offers for their players elsewhere. Dillon won’t get less than 4, Necas about 7-7.5. Would love to see something like this happen though I would hate to see some players go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern_Nuck Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Wanna bet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureQuickness Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 31 minutes ago, Northern_Nuck said: Wanna bet? Use your Gamesense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted May 30 Author Share Posted May 30 Latest On The Golden Knights’ Pending UFAs May 30th, 2024 at 8:58am CST • By Josh Erickson The Golden Knights won’t be able to re-sign most of their pending unrestricted free agents with a looming salary cap crunch, and they’ve already gone through the process of elimination on who to prioritize. The team has informed forwards Michael Amadio, William Carrierand Anthony Mantha that they won’t be offered extensions before July 1, David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period reported yesterday. All three will hit the UFA market. Amadio is a tough loss after being arguably their most cost-effective depth scorer over the past three seasons. After being claimed off waivers from the Maple Leafs early in the 2021-22 campaign, he enjoyed the best run of his career in Sin City. The 28-year-old has played nearly 200 regular-season games in a Vegas uniform, posting 41 goals and 72 points in less than 13 minutes of ice time per game. He’s also been quite the playoff performer, posting 10 points in 16 games en route to their Stanley Cup win in 2023 and logging a goal and an assist in their first-round elimination against the Stars this year. Amadio has made the league minimum salary each season, but he could likely land close to $3MM annually this summer. Carrier, 29, is an original Golden Knight. Selected from the Sabres in the 2017 expansion draft, the Québec native has been a serviceable fourth-line winger, and his 372 appearances rank sixth in franchise history. He struggled with injuries this season, limited to eight points in 39 games, but had a career-high 16 goals in 56 games the year before. Carrier has shining career possession numbers at even strength – a 53.6 CF% and a 55.9 xGF% – making him one of the better two-way options in the entire league for his role. He likely won’t land much of an increase, if any, on his expiring $1.4MM cap hit. Still, Vegas general manager Kelly McCrimmon needs every inch of flexibility possible to keep Jonathan Marchessault and Chandler Stephenson from heading to market. Giving up a pair of draft picks for Mantha at the trade deadline may have been a rare ill-advised move from McCrimmon. The 29-year-old winger seemed to fit nicely into their top nine down the stretch in the regular season, posting three goals and 10 points in 18 games. However, he fell out of the lineup once Tomáš Hertl and Mark Stone were ready to return from their injuries and only played in three of their seven playoff games against Dallas without recording a point. He’d been making an average of $5.7MM annually for the past four years on a deal signed by Red Wings GM Steve Yzerman in the 2020 offseason, and while he won’t earn that much again on his next deal, he might get close after his first 20-goal season since the COVID-19 pandemic. The Golden Knights are also unlikely to re-sign veteran defenseman Alec Martinez, who likely wouldn’t have been in their opening night lineup next season after Noah Hanifin‘s acquisition. But they haven’t informed him of anything like the others, Pagnotta said, and it’s unclear if he’ll test the market in July. After winning the Cup with Vegas last year and twice with the Kings in the early 2010s, the 36-year-old is “evaluating his options” as the end of his career draws closer. And while Marchessault is the higher-priority extension target, McCrimmon hasn’t closed the door on a Stephenson re-signing. Pagnotta reports he’ll speak to Stephenson’s camp in the next two weeks to gauge his price. Still, if he heads to market, he’ll have plenty of suitors as the second-best center potentially available after Elias Lindholm. As such, his market value could very well eclipse a $6MM AAV – a prohibitively expensive figure for Vegas unless significant cap-cutting trades are made. https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/05/latest-on-the-golden-knights-pending-ufas.html#ref=home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 On 5/28/2024 at 5:03 PM, DrJockitch said: It is truly some fantastic GMing. They go after the biggest player every year and get them. Somehow they squeeze them in. No sentimentality. They play the system they are in and have done an amazing job of it. I don’t like a lot of their players or their team but 5 years they have a cup, 50 we don’t, I will bend any rule almost to breaking for a cup. We tried that... we paid for it with a recapture penalty for years... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 19 minutes ago, RWJC said: Michael Amadio, William Carrierand Anthony Mantha that they won’t be offered extensions before July 1, David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period reported yesterday. All three will hit the UFA market. Mantha-was a $5.7 mill guy last year Amadila- .762,500 Carrier 1.4 mill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, HKSR said: We tried that... we paid for it with a recapture penalty for years... If only the league had warned us that would happen if we did what we did, oh yeah, they did and we chose to do it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 26 minutes ago, RWJC said: Latest On The Golden Knights’ Pending UFAs May 30th, 2024 at 8:58am CST • By Josh Erickson The Golden Knights won’t be able to re-sign most of their pending unrestricted free agents with a looming salary cap crunch, and they’ve already gone through the process of elimination on who to prioritize. The team has informed forwards Michael Amadio, William Carrierand Anthony Mantha that they won’t be offered extensions before July 1, David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period reported yesterday. All three will hit the UFA market. Amadio is a tough loss after being arguably their most cost-effective depth scorer over the past three seasons. After being claimed off waivers from the Maple Leafs early in the 2021-22 campaign, he enjoyed the best run of his career in Sin City. The 28-year-old has played nearly 200 regular-season games in a Vegas uniform, posting 41 goals and 72 points in less than 13 minutes of ice time per game. He’s also been quite the playoff performer, posting 10 points in 16 games en route to their Stanley Cup win in 2023 and logging a goal and an assist in their first-round elimination against the Stars this year. Amadio has made the league minimum salary each season, but he could likely land close to $3MM annually this summer. Carrier, 29, is an original Golden Knight. Selected from the Sabres in the 2017 expansion draft, the Québec native has been a serviceable fourth-line winger, and his 372 appearances rank sixth in franchise history. He struggled with injuries this season, limited to eight points in 39 games, but had a career-high 16 goals in 56 games the year before. Carrier has shining career possession numbers at even strength – a 53.6 CF% and a 55.9 xGF% – making him one of the better two-way options in the entire league for his role. He likely won’t land much of an increase, if any, on his expiring $1.4MM cap hit. Still, Vegas general manager Kelly McCrimmon needs every inch of flexibility possible to keep Jonathan Marchessault and Chandler Stephenson from heading to market. Giving up a pair of draft picks for Mantha at the trade deadline may have been a rare ill-advised move from McCrimmon. The 29-year-old winger seemed to fit nicely into their top nine down the stretch in the regular season, posting three goals and 10 points in 18 games. However, he fell out of the lineup once Tomáš Hertl and Mark Stone were ready to return from their injuries and only played in three of their seven playoff games against Dallas without recording a point. He’d been making an average of $5.7MM annually for the past four years on a deal signed by Red Wings GM Steve Yzerman in the 2020 offseason, and while he won’t earn that much again on his next deal, he might get close after his first 20-goal season since the COVID-19 pandemic. The Golden Knights are also unlikely to re-sign veteran defenseman Alec Martinez, who likely wouldn’t have been in their opening night lineup next season after Noah Hanifin‘s acquisition. But they haven’t informed him of anything like the others, Pagnotta said, and it’s unclear if he’ll test the market in July. After winning the Cup with Vegas last year and twice with the Kings in the early 2010s, the 36-year-old is “evaluating his options” as the end of his career draws closer. And while Marchessault is the higher-priority extension target, McCrimmon hasn’t closed the door on a Stephenson re-signing. Pagnotta reports he’ll speak to Stephenson’s camp in the next two weeks to gauge his price. Still, if he heads to market, he’ll have plenty of suitors as the second-best center potentially available after Elias Lindholm. As such, his market value could very well eclipse a $6MM AAV – a prohibitively expensive figure for Vegas unless significant cap-cutting trades are made. https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/05/latest-on-the-golden-knights-pending-ufas.html#ref=home Amadio and Carrier are the kinda guys we target if we lose Joshua. They'll come in cheaper but do arguably just as good of a job in a bottom 6 role. Amadio with Blueger and Garland would be excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, DrJockitch said: If only the league had warned us that would happen if we did what we did, oh yeah, they did and we chose to do it anyway. You mean how they approved of the contract and then retroactively went back and told us it wasn't acceptable? Imagine if contracts worked that way in the real world... oh! That mortgage you signed just before interest rates went sky rocketing? Yeah... that isn't fair for everyone else, so we're gonna just add on an extra mortgage rate avoidance fee so you pay about the same as everyone else... even though you signed that contract before changes were made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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