[Propsal] 2024/2025 Canucks without Guentzel

[Michael Scott]

3 way trade:
Vancouver gets:
Pavel Buchnevich ($2.5millon retained)

Chicago gets:
Connor Garland
Ilya Mikheyev
3rd pick 2024

St. Louis gets:
Nils Hoglander
Connor Murphy

Akita Hirose

Reason:
For Vancouver: they get out of mikeyev and find a top winger for Pettersson.
For Chicago: while losing Murphy isn't something they would like, there are a lot of RHD Free agents for them to sign. Plus are able to trade Garland and Mikeyev after the following season for picks to help their rebuild
For St.Louis: Buchnevich was available at trade deadline but the price was high. While they aren't getting the reported 2 first picks, they get a young 20 goal scorer on a cheap contract. A RHD that has 2 years left that could be flipped. Plus they would receive a young defenseman in Hirose who I don't think has a spot on the Canucks.

RFA Signings:
Arturs Silovs 2 years @$1,200,000

Re-signings:
Teddy Blueger 2 years @$2,150,000

UFA Signings:
Sean Walker 3 years @$4,600,000
Matt Roy 5 years @$5,600,000
Danton Heinen 3 years @$2,800,000
Brandon Duhaime 3 years @$1,750,000
Jonathan Marchessault 3 years @$6,000,000
John Klingberg  1 year @$1,800,000

Roster: 23 skaters
Cap hit: $87,471,667
Cap Space: 328,333

Buchnevich Pettersson Marchessault
Heinen Miller Boeser
Suter Blueger Podkolzin
Duhaime Åman Karlsson

Hughes Roy
Walker Hronek
Soucy Klingberg

Demko
Silovs

Extra: Friedman + Juulsen + Di Giuseppe


If the team is confident in juulsen playing the bottom pairing, the Canucks don't have to sign Klingberg. Move Karlsson to be an extra and that would leave the Canucks with roughly $2.1 to upgrade 3rd line.

 

 

Edited June 23, 2024 by Michael Scott

[Jim Tim]

First of all, Klingberg is horrible, we should want nothing to do with him. Second of all, I don't forgive Marchessault for his childish "shut the fuck lil dick" comments towards Canucks fans. Real locker room guy apparently. Third, a team with Danton Heinen on a scoring line isn't going far in the playoffs at all.

Edited June 23, 2024 by Jim Tim

[Honkin Hronek]

St Louis needs a 1st on top of the pieces they're getting

[Michael Scott]

1 hour ago, Jim Tim said:

First of all, Klingberg is horrible, we should want nothing to do with him. Second of all, I don't forgive Marchessault for his childish "shut the fuck lil dick" comments towards Canucks fans. Real locker room guy apparently. Third, a team with Danton Heinen on a scoring line isn't going far in the playoffs at all.

Klingberg had a bad year. For 1 year, he's worth the gamble. He's not  defense first, hence why he was paired with Soucy. If not, there are other options in that range such as Hakanpää. 

 

Heinen isn't the scorer on that line. Boeser and Miller are the scorers. He's the "puck retriever"/ physical presence. He is still good for 20 goals.

 

Comparing gum to Joshua:

Joshua: 63 games; 18 goals; 14 assists.

Heinen: 74 games; 17 goals; 19 assists

 

Difference: The salary between the two if the wings offer of $4million + is true. Need to replace him.

 

As for Marchessault, I don't mind what he said to the fans. No different than canuck fans going after oilers fan. It's part of the sports. As for locker room, I don't know anything about that. But with our leadership/coaching staff, I don't think we would need to worry about that. 

 

[Michael Scott]

1 hour ago, Honkin Hronek said:

St Louis needs a 1st on top of the pieces they're getting

I think that maybe too much than. Maybe it would be better to say maybe 2025 first + hirose + Murphy. Than flip Höglander for a young player. Maybe jets would offer Rutger McGroarty (doubt it) since Höglander is young, cheap and can help them now. 

[IBatch]

Why in the world would CHI accept this deal?   A 3rd rounder to bung up more then it would cost to sign Guentzel (doubt he'd pick CHI, but that's what your asking of them).    They could do so much better in free agency OR weaponizing that cap space for their rebuild.    One year of Marleau cost a first.    The opportunity costs are very high doing this.   Cap will still be king next season with 500 RFA and UFA's looking for contracts.    What they could do with close to 10 in cap space going into next season's TDL.   Even just as  a third party team retaining,  a monster pile of picks, and won't screw up their own cap doing it. 

 

Or they could spend it strategically. 
 

As for Klingberg, zero chance.   He's not getting PP time behind QHs and Hronek.    We are much better off with Myers, which says all we need to about the player.   Dillon.  Better options.   His value has tanked.    Maybe he can find a team that needs a second PP guy.   Not a reclamation project for us.    We will just get scored on more.   Rather we play Juulsen.   Klingberg is a defensive back hole, and you aren't adding any EV points either.   

Edited June 23, 2024 by IBatch