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49 minutes ago, Down By the River said:

Except it is so annoying when media members say "where there is smoke there is fire" and then fail to consider the fact that the "smoke" was their own doing. 

 

Don Taylor, one of my absolute favorites of all time, is notorious for this. 

 

 

We shall see I guess but I really don’t think this is small talk and rumours.

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

True, but it could be something Clarke wants kept in-house. Daliwal is looking for drama. That’s his job. But he is just connecting dots and making a guess. The thing about Dhaliwal is his job depends on his guess stirring discussion. 

Do you think Clark is staying here?

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Assuming the reports aren't total BS, I'm confused why Clarke can't stay as Director of Goaltending if he's not the coach? Our organization can't afford to have someone employed in the director position on its own? Rangers is doing this and their goaltending continues to be one of their strengths. Seems bizarre. Maybe someone can better explain this....

 

 

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1 minute ago, Wing said:

Assuming the reports aren't total BS, I'm confused why Clarke can't stay as Director of Goaltending if he's not the coach? Our organization can't afford to have someone employed in the director position on its own? Rangers is doing this and their goaltending continues to be one of their strengths. Seems bizarre. Maybe someone can better explain this....

 

 

The star we see in the night sky is not a spaceship. Daliwal gets paid to make people think stars are spaceships. 

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1 minute ago, Westcoasting said:

Nothing to do with Dhali… what is your opinion? Do you really think he’s gonna hang around here?

The Empties suggest Clarke has things outside of hockey that he needs to take care of. If he moves it’s not for personal reasons. 

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Hmmm. Desmith was also hurt under him. In his defense , all of our goalies seemed to over achieve under him. Spencer Martin is still milking that run he had with us. 

 

 

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"The noise surrounding Clark began in late August when the Canucks announced that he had asked for a new position (Goaltending Coach and Director of Goaltending) with the team and will now serve as a goalie scout and goaltending development coach".

 

 

It's confusing when the article opens with the above quote, when you realize that Clarke already was the 'Goaltending

Coach and Director of Goaltending, before he asked to step down from his current position and asked for a change of

roles.

 

Here is the official announcement from the Canucks...

 

https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/canucks-announce-changes-to-goaltending-coaching-and-development

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Baratheon said:

It reads that way because it’s quoted wrong. What he actually said was that Elliotte Friedman had linked Clark to New Jersey. Dhaliwal said that he could add some other teams to the list but he won’t. 


Elliotte linked him to New Jersey because of Markstrom.

 

Like he’s gonna move across the continent just to work with a 34 year old goalie who’s almost past his prime with 2 years left on his contract. 🤦‍♂️

 

Elliotte just fanning the flames with unintelligent blather.

 

Clark may very well leave but I would imagine it would be to a team with a younger stud goalie like Askarov or Wallstedt.

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3 minutes ago, Drakrami said:

Quite obvious there was smoke when he was turned into a goalie scout. Just a bunch of folks in denial in the other post. 

 

What I got from Demko's interview though is that he is on board with this. 


Well he’s got one of the most expensive contracts a goalie coach has been given.

 

If he’s not able to work on the ice with the goalies every day I doubt ownership wants to pay him that much to scout.

 

Sounds like it may have already been the plan to promote Torenius. May have happened one year sooner than planned though.

 

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Weird stuff. I hope they can work it all out, but it doesn’t sound like it. I’ll say it does seem odd that although Clark gets a big early success with his keepers, they do end up with lingering injuries, and he, himself seems to have injury issues, with destroyed knees. 
Ian Clark’s on ice warm up be like…
Tv Land Pain GIF by nobodies.

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7 hours ago, Down By the River said:

I also do not think the relationship breakdown is surprising. Ian Clark couldn't fulfill his duties as a goaltending coach because he couldn't be on the ice. He wanted a promotion, the Canucks gave him a demotion. Not surprising things soured. Also not surprising that the Canucks might want to have a different voice. Coaches routinely lose their room after 3-4 years. Ian Clark has been around forever and it is hard to imagine more of a 1-1 coaching-player relationship than goalie coach and goalie. A new voice makes sense. It is not like Demko will forget everything Clark taught him. 

 

There's also lots of other teams around the league that doesn't have Clark on their organization, like Florida. And they won. Tampa Bay for years, and they've won. We've had Clark and we haven't won. So yeah, maybe a new voice in the room with the goalies might do a little (or a lot) of good. Blessings on Clark if he doesn't want to remain. Who's the new goalie coach? I don't know much if anything about him. Is he any good? 

 

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5 hours ago, higgyfan said:

 

"The noise surrounding Clark began in late August when the Canucks announced that he had asked for a new position (Goaltending Coach and Director of Goaltending) with the team and will now serve as a goalie scout and goaltending development coach".

 

 

It's confusing when the article opens with the above quote, when you realize that Clarke already was the 'Goaltending

Coach and Director of Goaltending, before he asked to step down from his current position and asked for a change of

roles.

 

Here is the official announcement from the Canucks...

 

https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/canucks-announce-changes-to-goaltending-coaching-and-development

 

 

 

 

 

So did Clark step down, or was he demoted? 

 

Because it doesn't make sense that he would ask for a demotion

 

Something doesn't add up here. 

 

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6 hours ago, Westcoasting said:

Do you think Clark is staying here?

It doesn't feel like it. 

 

Like another poster would suggest, I wouldn't be surprised if he moves to work with a younger goaltender like Askarov or Wallestedt (San Jose, or Minnesota). 

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6 hours ago, Wing said:

Assuming the reports aren't total BS, I'm confused why Clarke can't stay as Director of Goaltending if he's not the coach? Our organization can't afford to have someone employed in the director position on its own? Rangers is doing this and their goaltending continues to be one of their strengths. Seems bizarre. Maybe someone can better explain this....

 

 

Maybe enjoy this last few years without Clark. Might be moving back to the stone age without Clark, depending on who management decides to employ moving forward. 

 

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I don't know. From my perspective it's sounded like Clark wanted to take a step back and have less of a workload. It was he who approached the Canucks about wanting a different role. 

 

Not sure how those two things equal Clark wants out and the Canucks want him out. Well, outside of generating interest and clicks for the media. 

 

The story Dhaliwal is pushing doesn't make sense to me, not based on the things coming from the Canucks.  

 

 

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This wreaks of the Judd Brackett situation. Everyone was freaking out but life went on and it wasn't a big deal at all.

 

Reporters just sensationalize minor things for headlines.

 

Lots of teams have great goaltending, even better than the canucks and they don't have Ian Clark.

 

All good things come to an end, don't let this be a team distraction. 

 

Next!

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Odd timing too because as I was listening to a Canucks podcast (not related) I was wondering if Demko's injury were in relation to being overworked by Clark because it seems so many of his goaltenders all end up with serious injuries in either knees or hips and don't last and it was just a pattern I recognized.

 

To have this written down as a rumour is mind boggling to me. 

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2 minutes ago, MikeyD said:

Odd timing too because as I was listening to a Canucks podcast (not related) I was wondering if Demko's injury were in relation to being overworked by Clark because it seems so many of his goaltenders all end up with serious injuries in either knees or hips and don't last and it was just a pattern I recognized.

 

To have this written down as a rumour is mind boggling to me. 

Until he leaves it will probably be a rumour. Because nothing has been confirmed by either side. We've survived without Brackett. As long as we have a solid goaltending coach and scouting, it will all be good. Time will tell. 

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People thought the franchise would implode when Judd Brackett left the organization,  but we're doing just fine aren't we?  Losing quality people (if that's what happens) is part of the business - doesn't mean there aren't equally good (or better) people out there waiting for an opportunity.  Not everyone is going to be Stan Smyl and be a Canuck for life. 

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