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Elias Pettersson offseason/pre-season impact


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I think some people think there's an I in team. 

 

I think that some people want to bring up $$ like it's a sure fire guarantee for points.

 

Thing is, Petey's definitely off and not at a level we want him to be at. But the way some people trash him, it's like they only check the stats for goals or the highlight reels. Those of us who do watch the games (and what happens away from the play) know that Petey's still effective. Like every other player, he has blunders (I'm old shut up)  and does get knocked down easily....but that's all they hone in on. He's in there, battling, and doesn't shy away. Or just float around and watch.

 

They used to do it with JT...WAIT for those moments to go "AHA". But they didn't see the good stuff because it's tunnel vision and they're just looking for the stuff that they can bitch about. Those people love to criticize because, for many, it makes them feel smart. Like they see something that no one else does.

 

I am not saying that people weighing in about Petey don't have reason for concern. But let's keep it real...he's not awful and some would have us believe that he is. 

 

He's been excellent in the past and my guess is he will be again. Not always, but not never either. We're already seeing glimpses of him now that his confidence seems to be increasing.

 

Patience. Don't throw our own under the bus....learn from previous mistakes where people have given up on our players. I remember it with Bieksa, Burr, JT and now Petey.

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1 minute ago, -dlc- said:

I think some people think there's an I in team. 

 

I think that some people want to bring up $$ like it's a sure fire guarantee for points.

 

Thing is, Petey's definitely off and not at a level we want him to be at. But the way some people trash him, it's like they only check the stats for goals or the highlight reels. Those of us who do watch the games (and what happens away from the play) know that Petey's still effective. Like every other player, he has blunders (I'm old shut up)  and does get knocked down easily....but that's all they hone in on. He's in there, battling, and doesn't shy away. Or just float around and watch.

 

They used to do it with JT...WAIT for those moments to go "AHA". But they didn't see the good stuff because it's tunnel vision. Those people love to criticize because, for many, it makes them feel smart. Like they see something that no one else does.

 

I am not saying that people weighing in about Petey don't have a reason for concern. But let's keep it real...he's not awful and some would have us believe that he is.

 

He's been excellent and my guess is he will be again. Not always, but not never either. We're already seeing glimpses of him now that his confidence seems to be increasing.

 

Patience. Don't throw our own under the bus....learn from previous mistakes where people have given up on our players. I remember it with Bieksa, Burr, JT and now Petey.

Don’t forget the Twins were once upon a time nearly cast away and struggled immensely and doubted their own ability to play in this league. 

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25 minutes ago, garthsbutcher said:

ZERO even strength goals in his last 27 games, you bet im concerned!!!!!!!!!!!

Mikheyev has been his #1 line mate by a large majority of time spent. He was also injured. He has new line mates yet again, hardly any pre-season time spent while having to adjust to new line mates. Who knows how long his recovery took. He’s looking better each game, he’s making plays, DeBrusk didn’t bury a beautiful set up in the high slot.

hes not coasting, hes throwing the body, hes skating his ass off on the forecheck and backcheck. Right now Pettersson is working hard as fuck to make an impact any way he can, until that monkey is off his back he won’t quit and won’t stop when it is either.

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Petey will get back to that 90-100 pt pace in no time. One thing that doesn’t get talked about enough is how reliable he’s become. His FO% has been improving consistently year over year. He’s relied upon in all situations - 5v5, 5v4, 4v5. He can take D zone draws, O zone draws. You can put him out with 1 minute left on the clock regardless if you’re chasing or defending. Barkov, Eichel, and Hischier will all make as much if not more than Petey when they re-up their contracts and I certainly think he’s that calibre of player. We’re expecting him to be a Kucherov/J. Hughes type when he’s really a Jack Eichel. He’s like the pitcher with a weird throwing style. His style doesn’t look the prettiest at times but he is every bit as effective.

 

That’s not to say I haven’t been frustrated with him lately but he will easily be worth his contract and a 100 pt, 2-way player is EXTREMELY hard to find

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#SupportPete I am fully onboard the cheer for Pete train.

 

Though I don't want to make excuses nor do I think he needs that or wants that. He needs to be better and he knows that. We have him for ever now. Nothing good comes from dragging him after 4 games into his new deal. He's our franchise player if he fails the canucks goose is cooked. He needs our full support. He's family. 

 

IMO this MGMT has done some great stuff. Last DL they delivered. This offseason I thought they were chasing. They played hardball and lost Zad. Then tried to fill the void with Descharnais Forbort. And our D looks pretty bad. Meanwhile Zad is 3rd in icetime and has 3apples 2of which first. Lindholm has 5 points in 5 games. Debrusk Heinen Sprong. Don't fill that void either. What erks me and I posted a lot about it in the offseason. Is that we could have kept everyone and fit under the cap.  

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I feel like someone from CFF grabbed the controller. Or Alvin started listening to the fans and media. Crying for wingers. We had the keystones of a contender. Boston literally just re tool'd in our face. 

 

That bugs me.

 

Pete's a beauty though he will get there he has to climb the mountain still. This team can make the finals and potentially win a cup. I'm willing to go full on the band wagon. Accruing cap sure let's see it. I anticipate a huge dl move or 2 or what are we doing this for? Maybe their setting a trend that will become the blueprint. 

 

I'm scratching my head. 

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11 minutes ago, Coconuts said:

 

I also believe Elias Pettersson can get it together too

 

Just watch what happens.  We haven’t even seen the best of Petey yet.  The Sedins didn’t even break out until they were 26/27.  I believe the current situation is mental not physical.  At some point, Petey will overcome whatever that is bothering him and he will be back to being a 100+ point player…

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9 minutes ago, cripplereh said:

Looks ng as we win and stay with more wins then losses who cares.

 

The team had a slow start not just EP.

To be fair.

 

We're 8th in expected goals against. Our high and medium danger shots against is low and our goaltending isn't up to par though Lanks has been good. our goaltending is what it is. We are spending <2m on goalies rn. How are the avs doing w Georgiev letting in 5 every game. 

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Petey could have had multiple points last game - he served up some beauties for linemates. He’s looking good, just not getting the bounces the last couple of games. I’m not concerned.

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1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

Just watch what happens.  We haven’t even seen the best of Petey yet.  The Sedins didn’t even break out until they were 26/27.  I believe the current situation is mental not physical.  At some point, Petey will overcome whatever that is bothering him and he will be back to being a 100+ point player…

 

It does seem like it's probably a mental hurdle of some sort, it doesn't look like a lack of effort 

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3 hours ago, Hammertime said:

#SupportPete I am fully onboard the cheer for Pete train.

 

Though I don't want to make excuses nor do I think he needs that or wants that. He needs to be better and he knows that. We have him for ever now. Nothing good comes from dragging him after 4 games into his new deal. He's our franchise player if he fails the canucks goose is cooked. He needs our full support. He's family. 

 

IMO this MGMT has done some great stuff. Last DL they delivered. This offseason I thought they were chasing. They played hardball and lost Zad. Then tried to fill the void with Descharnais Forbort. And our D looks pretty bad. Meanwhile Zad is 3rd in icetime and has 3apples 2of which first. Lindholm has 5 points in 5 games. Debrusk Heinen Sprong. Don't fill that void either. What erks me and I posted a lot about it in the offseason. Is that we could have kept everyone and fit under the cap.  

image.thumb.png.866404026e0dddb9d9a8f3d5f2991462.png

 

I feel like someone from CFF grabbed the controller. Or Alvin started listening to the fans and media. Crying for wingers. We had the keystones of a contender. Boston literally just re tool'd in our face. 

 

That bugs me.

 

Pete's a beauty though he will get there he has to climb the mountain still. This team can make the finals and potentially win a cup. I'm willing to go full on the band wagon. Accruing cap sure let's see it. I anticipate a huge dl move or 2 or what are we doing this for? Maybe their setting a trend that will become the blueprint. 

 

I'm scratching my head. 

 

I stated last year that Lindholm was a better fit and that Zadorov was an absolute necessity for this team if we wanted success in the playoffs. 

But we betted on Petey and Myers. 

Petey is no doubt, a wonderful hockey player and will have success in the NHL, but when the discussion was about Petey, Miller and Bo being our top center, many believe, and still believe, Petey is the one.

Miller is and has always been our guy. Just look what he has done lately. That IS our leader, much like Linden was in his day. 

With Miller being our top guy, Lindholm would have been the perfect centermen to play behind him and at a far less cost.

I am sorry but Myers is not a top 4 guy and and Soucy is barely a top 4 guy. Big Z WAS our guy.

Either way, this is still my team, and I will cheer for what we have, but I really felt we were on our way to something great last year and now we will never know what might have been. 

Petey is struggling and has been for awhile. He had the same situation happen earlier on in his career. Now that he is making money that pays him to be one of the best in the league, he needs to figure it out soon, as the team has gone "all in" on him and he carries a lot of weight on his shoulders whether he likes it or not. He should have taken a little less and the pressure would have been less on him and it would have been good for everybody all around. 

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4 hours ago, farinush said:

Petey will get back to that 90-100 pt pace in no time. One thing that doesn’t get talked about enough is how reliable he’s become. His FO% has been improving consistently year over year. He’s relied upon in all situations - 5v5, 5v4, 4v5. He can take D zone draws, O zone draws. You can put him out with 1 minute left on the clock regardless if you’re chasing or defending. Barkov, Eichel, and Hischier will all make as much if not more than Petey when they re-up their contracts and I certainly think he’s that calibre of player. We’re expecting him to be a Kucherov/J. Hughes type when he’s really a Jack Eichel. He’s like the pitcher with a weird throwing style. His style doesn’t look the prettiest at times but he is every bit as effective.

 

That’s not to say I haven’t been frustrated with him lately but he will easily be worth his contract and a 100 pt, 2-way player is EXTREMELY hard to find

I'm taking Barkov & Eichel over Petey anyday. Miller much closer to those to than Petey. 

 

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16 hours ago, AnthonyG said:

Don’t forget the Twins were once upon a time nearly cast away and struggled immensely and doubted their own ability to play in this league. 

The twins struggled up to the age of 24... coincidentally they hit 25yo just as the post lockout era began.  They never looked back after that becoming consistent producers until their 30s.

 

I'd say this year and next are very important years for Petey to show the league what he's made of.

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