Adam Gaudette | #96 | C

[Toyotasfan]

At 27 years old is he finally becoming the player the Canucks thought he was or is the hot start to the season in Ottawa just smoke and mirrors? 

[Coconuts]

There's a good chance it's neither tbh. It's not that Gaudette didn't possess talent, it's that he's a middle six tweener who hasn't always possessed what it takes to be a beat out legit bottom six forwards. When he was a Canuck if he wasn't producing there was a question of what he did bring. 

 

Thing is, he put up 44 goals and 27 assists for 71 points in 67 AHL games last season, he can produce at that level. Can he maintain what he's done for the Sens going forward? I'd lean towards no, but sometimes players surprise, but he might be able to produce enough to hang on to a spot in Ottawa. If he's worked to round out his game that could mitigate any drop off in production, but he'll probably need to produce to some degree because he's not a shutdown guy or a banger. Could he be more of a utility player who can chip in? That's probably his best path to sticking.  

 

Depends on how much Green likes him too, Gaudette is a player he'd be familiar with. 

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, Coconuts said:

There's a good chance it's neither tbh. It's not that Gaudette didn't possess talent, it's that he's a middle six tweener who hasn't always possessed what it takes to be a beat out legit bottom six forwards. When he was a Canuck if he wasn't producing there was a question of what he did bring. 

 

Thing is, he put up 44 goals and 27 assists for 71 points in 67 AHL games last season, he can produce at that level. Can he maintain what he's done for the Sens going forward? I'd lean towards no, but sometimes players surprise, but he might be able to produce enough to hang on to a spot in Ottawa. If he's worked to round out his game that could mitigate any drop off in production, but he'll probably need to produce to some degree because he's not a shutdown guy or a banger. Could he be more of a utility player who can chip in? That's probably his best path to sticking.  

 

Depends on how much Green likes him too, Gaudette is a player he'd be familiar with. 

He’s been on the Sens pp 1 tonight. 

[Coconuts]

1 minute ago, Alflives said:

He’s been on the Sens pp 1 tonight. 

 

I mean, we'll see? I just question his ability to sustain his start given his career high was 33 points back in 19-20. He's bounced around a bit. 

 

Maybe that big year in Springfield did something for him, but I'll still need to a larger sample size before I believe he's turned the corner.

[Alflives]

7 minutes ago, Coconuts said:

 

I mean, we'll see? I just question his ability to sustain his start given his career high was 33 points back in 19-20. He's bounced around a bit. 

 

Maybe that big year in Springfield did something for him, but I'll still need to a larger sample size before I believe he's turned the corner.

He’s 28 now and fully filled out. I think he’s about 190. He’s not a difference maker, but should stick as a middle six guy. Sens definitely need decent players. 

[Coconuts]

29 minutes ago, Alflives said:

He’s 28 now and fully filled out. I think he’s about 190. He’s not a difference maker, but should stick as a middle six guy. Sens definitely need decent players. 

 

He certainly could, the key will be how he's contributing to the Sens lineup if he's not producing. He's not young anymore, but that doesn't mean he hasn't progressed or that he can't develop his game further. 

[Snoop Hogg]

Sometimes players need multiple changes of scenery before they break through, like Gustav Forsling and Jared McCann.

[Alflives]

Just now, Snoop Hogg said:

Sometimes players need multiple changes of scenery before they break through, like Gustav Forsling and Jared McCann.

And that Barnstorm guy we just got! 

[Guntrix]

37 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said:

Sometimes players need multiple changes of scenery before they break through, like Gustav Forsling and Jared McCann.

Forsling and McCann were good with us though. So was Gaudette. I remember being a fan of Adam's intensity and clutchness when he was with us. 

 

Benning messed up in letting all three go. 

[Bob Long]

Are people actually pining for Gaudette 

 

Oh Corrado, where art thou?

 

[Jess]

2 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

Are people actually pining for Gaudette 

 

Oh Corrado, where art thou?

 

 

Goddamn it, Shinkaruk is the next Naslund! I'm telling you!!1!!

[Goalie29]

1 hour ago, Snoop Hogg said:

Sometimes players need multiple changes of scenery before they break through, like Gustav Forsling and Jared McCann.

 

I remember CDC being obsessed with Grabner for several years.

[PureQuickness]

3 hours ago, Goalie29 said:

 

I remember CDC being obsessed with Grabner for several years.

 

He was oozing with talent - and then the breakout year in NYI was the payoff. He never came close after that, but he did have 40+ goals or something ridiculous. He may have been a flash in a pan with that respect; however, Grabner does have a respectable career. He turned out to be one of the best first round picks that year, EVEN thought his pick was a big reach.

When Grabner was traded, he was almost a PPG (small sample). It was a terrible trade in hindsight.

[PureQuickness]

4 hours ago, Guntrix said:

Forsling and McCann were good with us though. So was Gaudette. I remember being a fan of Adam's intensity and clutchness when he was with us. 

 

Benning messed up in letting all three go. 

 

Hindsight was 20/20 with this.

Forsling never actually played with the Canucks.

McCann apparently had a terrible attitude

And Gaudette - the COVID patient zero probably had a lot to do with his trade. His wife on the chiklets podcast boasted about flagrantly disregarding team policies (i.e. shopping in public).

 

All three players had bounced around to get to this point.

Edited November 3 by PureQuickness

[The Brock Star]

5 hours ago, Guntrix said:

Forsling and McCann were good with us though. So was Gaudette. I remember being a fan of Adam's intensity and clutchness when he was with us. 

 

Benning messed up in letting all three go. 

Forsling and McCann were complete whiffs by Benning, but if memory serves correctly with Gaudette, he was ran out of the room essentially by his teammates. Gaudette was patient zero for the covid outbreak that ran through the Canucks locker room and ended Brandon Sutter’s career, and there had been multiple reports that the players wanted him gone after that. I don’t think there’s any world where we could have kept him after that. 

[Guntrix]

59 minutes ago, PureQuickness said:

 

Hindsight was 20/20 with this.

Forsling never actually played with the Canucks.

McCann apparently had a terrible attitude

And Gaudette - the COVID patient zero probably had a lot to do with his trade. His wife on the chiklets podcast boasted about flagrantly disregarding team policies (i.e. shopping in public).

 

All three players had bounced around to get to this point.

You’re right about Forsling never having played with the Canucks, but I recall that he was our best D prospect at the time. He was then traded for Clendening who, even at that time, was clearly a low ceiling D meant to advance the development curve. That trade was very controversial at that time and the years have not proven Benning right.

 

McCann (who notched a respectable 9 Gs 9 As in his rookie season) and Gaudette certainly had attitude issues. I just don’t understand the rationale behind showing them the door while at the same time doing everything possible to salvage Virtanen’s career - an even worse human being in all respects. 

[ABNuck]

9 hours ago, Guntrix said:

You’re right about Forsling never having played with the Canucks, but I recall that he was our best D prospect at the time. He was then traded for Clendening who, even at that time, was clearly a low ceiling D meant to advance the development curve. That trade was very controversial at that time and the years have not proven Benning right.

 

McCann (who notched a respectable 9 Gs 9 As in his rookie season) and Gaudette certainly had attitude issues. I just don’t understand the rationale behind showing them the door while at the same time doing everything possible to salvage Virtanen’s career - an even worse human being in all respects. 

GM's are human too, and can make character mistakes. For a long time, perceived "character" was a trademark of Benning acquisitions (trade or draft). The problem was, who was the expert in the room that was able to truly decode a player's character? And the other side of the coin is the player. Some speak out and their character spews out (which I suspect in the McCann and Gaudette cases) whereas others can hide their true nature behind a mask and seemingly receive multiple "chances" (such as the case with SG Jake). 

 

The way we are running now is that character takes a back seat to attitude and Hockey IQ. If a player doesn't fit the attitude (or hockey culture) of the room, then he'll find himself on the trade block. Probably a better way to build a champion instead of having a room full of "really good guys".

[PureQuickness]

14 hours ago, The Brock Star said:

Forsling and McCann were complete whiffs by Benning, but if memory serves correctly with Gaudette, he was ran out of the room essentially by his teammates. Gaudette was patient zero for the covid outbreak that ran through the Canucks locker room and ended Brandon Sutter’s career, and there had been multiple reports that the players wanted him gone after that. I don’t think there’s any world where we could have kept him after that. 

 

Forsling and McCann were not whiffs. In fact, they were great picks by Benning. However, it was how they were managed that was bad. People are criticizing Benning for his entire tenure, but nothing could be further from the truth. Benning had a tendency to offset any positive gains that he made. He was clearly a decent scout, but whether he was a good manager is really up to debate.

 

Gaudette was ALSO another good draft pick by Benning. His character wasn't very good though, as it turned out, or maybe he married the wrong woman. If I remember correctly, after Gaudette was traded, pretty much everyone had de-friended the guy on their social media accounts. Gaudette apparently felt bad about bringing COVID into the room, but this was probably due to his wife being the carrier as she had openly defied team policies, as per own admission, in a podcast which has since been deleted lol. You can still read references about it on the internet though. I remember very clearly listening to the podcast though and I was utterly shocked at how stupid the woman was.

[The Brock Star]

3 minutes ago, PureQuickness said:

 

Forsling and McCann were not whiffs. In fact, they were great picks by Benning. However, it was how they were managed that was bad. People are criticizing Benning for his entire tenure, but nothing could be further from the truth. Benning had a tendency to offset any positive gains that he made. He was clearly a decent scout, but whether he was a good manager is really up to debate.

For clarification, I meant whiffs in how they left the team. 2 brutal trades. They are both great players we could use today. 

[Iron Fist]

On 11/2/2024 at 5:50 PM, Snoop Hogg said:

Sometimes players need multiple changes of scenery before they break through, like Gustav Forsling and Jared McCann.

Plus Vancouver isn't really a place where you can give any player that much runway to develop. even during the rebuild, fans wanted players gone asap.

[higgyfan]

On 11/2/2024 at 6:29 PM, Guntrix said:

Forsling and McCann were good with us though. So was Gaudette. I remember being a fan of Adam's intensity and clutchness when he was with us. 

 

Benning messed up in letting all three go. 

 

I don't recall Forsling ever playing on the Canucks, but just like McCann I wouldn't consider either

good players until they were 25yrs.  Gaudette had an ok year with the Canucks, but then messed

everything up by not following the Covid protocols and spreading it amongst his teamates.  Up until

the current season, he's basically floundered around AHL teams, while getting a few spotty chances

in the NHL. I'd say he's done well for a 5th rounder, though.

 

I don't think the team would have waited around until these guys developed their game so long

after their draft years.  Can't blame Bening, this time. 

 

 

[Ballisticsports]

8 hours ago, PureQuickness said:

 

Forsling and McCann were not whiffs. In fact, they were great picks by Benning. However, it was how they were managed that was bad. People are criticizing Benning for his entire tenure, but nothing could be further from the truth. Benning had a tendency to offset any positive gains that he made. He was clearly a decent scout, but whether he was a good manager is really up to debate.

 

Gaudette was ALSO another good draft pick by Benning. His character wasn't very good though, as it turned out, or maybe he married the wrong woman. If I remember correctly, after Gaudette was traded, pretty much everyone had de-friended the guy on their social media accounts. Gaudette apparently felt bad about bringing COVID into the room, but this was probably due to his wife being the carrier as she had openly defied team policies, as per own admission, in a podcast which has since been deleted lol. You can still read references about it on the internet though. I remember very clearly listening to the podcast though and I was utterly shocked at how stupid the woman was.

 

More about the further from the truth part

 

Benning WAS a scout BEFORE joining the Canucks as the GM (Just like Allvin and other GM's have/are)

Bennings time with the Canucks was as GM (not as a scout) 

He did manage to have his whole scout team leave or be let go

I think he found his past scouting was more fun, than current GM duties (he didn't handle well and the team responded the same way as the leader)

He then promoted Chris Gear so him and Weisbrod could go scout, and who did those 2 manage to scout at that point ?

They were all let rightfully let go shortly after that

[PureQuickness]

41 minutes ago, Ballisticsports said:

 

More about the further from the truth part

 

Benning WAS a scout BEFORE joining the Canucks as the GM (Just like Allvin and other GM's have/are)

Bennings time with the Canucks was as GM (not as a scout) 

He did manage to have his whole scout team leave or be let go

I think he found his past scouting was more fun, than current GM duties (he didn't handle well and the team responded the same way as the leader)

He then promoted Chris Gear so him and Weisbrod could go scout, and who did those 2 manage to scout at that point ?

They were all let rightfully let go shortly after that

 

All of it is true at the same time. No one will seriously argue that he's a good manager. Track record shows that he's not. That said, contrary to fans, Benning is most definitely "not the worst GM ever." Lol.

 

You can't be the worst GM ever when you scouted/developed/traded for: Hughes/Pettersson/Boeser/Hoglander/Demko, and traded Miller. The OEL trade was a sour one, but at least Garland came out of it.

 

I criticize Benning for keeping Green. Poor track record coach that didn't deserve to be re-signed. His loyalty to a fault was a BAD one.

[PureQuickness]

9 hours ago, The Brock Star said:

For clarification, I meant whiffs in how they left the team. 2 brutal trades. They are both great players we could use today. 

 

The trades sucked; however, they did not immediately flourish on other teams. They had to bounce around until they became effective.

[RJCF96]

He is shooting at 35.2%, which is extremely unsustainable and his career average is shooting at 10.8%