Popular Post Lewlowned Posted November 4 Popular Post Posted November 4 (edited) Just tossing this up quick because no one has claimed it. I’ll fill it out with more details later! When: Tuesday November 5th at 7:00PM PST Where to Watch: Sportsnet Pacific Where to Listen: Sportsnet 650 VANCOUVER LINEUP Notes - Forbort left part way through practice after an apparent leg injury - Raty was name dropped by Tocchet to fulfill the 4th line center role - Lankinen is the Canucks starter according to Tocchet ANAHEIM LINEUP Notes: - Confirmed starter is Dostal who has had a wicked start to the year. It would be nice for our top guys to finally break out GO CANUCKS GO! Edited November 5 by Lewlowned 3 11 2 1
Popular Post Canuck You Posted November 4 Popular Post Posted November 4 Time to start earning the check EP40! 9 4 1
Popular Post Rocket-68 Posted November 4 Popular Post Posted November 4 (edited) Woohoo Go Canucks Go!!!!!!! Thank you for doing this @Lewlowned On a lighter note, @Alflives' first and last day on the job as a Zamboni driver. Coincidentally, footage taken about 30 minutes after a Canucks game had ended. Edited November 5 by Rocket-68 1 16
Popular Post Reg Posted November 4 Popular Post Posted November 4 Man, I just want to see a 60 minute effort. Compete for every puck and play tough. 3 4
Popular Post Dr. Crossbar Posted November 5 Popular Post Posted November 5 There's a game, that keeps on calling me Nucks vs. Ducks, another chance for Petey Every shot he takes, it's a matter of when He'll be back, scoring goals, and lighting it up again. 2 1 1 2 2
Alflives Posted November 5 Posted November 5 Just now, Barnstorm said: Canucks just going to improve from here on in. 106 point pace. We will improve as Petey gets going and Demko comes back. Then are we a 115 point team? 2 1
Popular Post RWJC Posted November 5 Popular Post Posted November 5 Apologies, just posted this in last PGT but wanted to see what folks thought of these numbers. This set of stats could hint to what might be a lingering physical issue with EP: Also want to show he hasn’t quit on the team with some defensive metrics to back that. He is trying and has improved his defensive game in the face of whatever is affecting him. Yes, he isn’t paid to be this kind of player. I understand. But there’s value still being extracted: Now the one thing going for him is when he signed his last deal he slumped afterwards. Most remember that. Once that passed he set a career record for points. Hopefully after this slump he does the same. 6 1 1 6
steviewonder20 Posted November 5 Posted November 5 All I want for Xmas is another top 4 winger, a top 4 D, Demko back and in great shape, and EP40 to regain his mojo. Then we are a real contender. Is that too much to ask, Santa? 1 1
Barnstorm Posted November 5 Posted November 5 30 minutes ago, Alflives said: 106 point pace. We will improve as Petey gets going and Demko comes back. Then are we a 115 point team? Regardless of the acceptable points pace the Canucks have lots of room to improve their play. A point pace doesn’t tell the whole story. To date they have not been convincingly dominant or even played a 60 minute game. Even without Demko and DJ they are capable of playing a much better game and they will . 2
Alflives Posted November 5 Posted November 5 Just now, Barnstorm said: Regardless of the acceptable points pace the Canucks have lots of room to improve their play. A point pace doesn’t tell the whole story. To date they have not been convincingly dominant or even played a 60 minute game. Even without Demko and DJ they are capable of playing a much better game and they will . So 106 point pace is what our club is at when not firing on all cylinders. Our ceiling must be super high then. Are we a 120 point team when Petey gets going and Demko returns? 1
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted November 5 Posted November 5 57 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: There's a game, that keeps on calling me Nucks vs. Ducks, another chance for Petey Every shot he takes, it's a matter of when He'll be back, scoring goals, and lighting it up again. Maybe tomorrow we'll settle down Until tomorrow I'll just keep moving on 1
JeremyCuddles Posted November 5 Posted November 5 27 minutes ago, RWJC said: Apologies, just posted this in last PGT but wanted to see what folks thought of these numbers. This set of stats could hint to what might be a lingering physical issue with EP: Also want to show he hasn’t quit on the team with some defensive metrics to back that. He is trying and has improved his defensive game in the face of whatever is affecting him. Yes, he isn’t paid to be this kind of player. I understand. But there’s value still being extracted: Now the one thing going for him is when he signed his last deal he slumped afterwards. Most remember that. Once that passed he set a career record for points. Hopefully after this slump he does the same. The defensive numbers are also indicative of the team having more of a defensive system, I'd bet the large majority of our core players have improved defensive metrics since Tocc took over. But I don't want to take it all away from Petey. He is noticeably better defensively. I think it's cause the fear of being run over goes down when he doesn't have the puck. He is also incredibly smart player. His positioning is almost always perfect. I also think those numbers are a problem, to an extent, I don't think Petey is better off with more defensive starts. They need to get him out there more offensively. Somehow. Also, this is the thing we meme'd Loui Eriksson for. No offence but he was "doing the little things." So, I guess it's fine that Petey is doing the little things. But it's not what we pay him 11mil for. 1 1
Slegr Posted November 5 Posted November 5 Winning streak here we goooo! Petey 2 goals. Joshua back and throwing his weight around. 2 1 1
Barnstorm Posted November 5 Posted November 5 Just now, Alflives said: So 106 point pace is what our club is at when not firing on all cylinders. Our ceiling must be super high then. Are we a 120 point team when Petey gets going and Demko returns? Clearly the team has not been playing to their potential. When they do reach their best it won’t necessarily equate to an inordinate point level although I wouldn’t complain. They could well just win their games more convincingly and look better doing it. You will have to consult your empty liquor bottles for any specific numbers. 2
Popular Post Attila Umbrus Posted November 5 Popular Post Posted November 5 30 minutes ago, RWJC said: Apologies, just posted this in last PGT but wanted to see what folks thought of these numbers. This set of stats could hint to what might be a lingering physical issue with EP: Also want to show he hasn’t quit on the team with some defensive metrics to back that. He is trying and has improved his defensive game in the face of whatever is affecting him. Yes, he isn’t paid to be this kind of player. I understand. But there’s value still being extracted: Now the one thing going for him is when he signed his last deal he slumped afterwards. Most remember that. Once that passed he set a career record for points. Hopefully after this slump he does the same. I’d take an 80-90 point well rounded Petey over a 100 point flashy Nylander style Petey any day. Not that he would ever become Bergeron or Barkov. But of that ilk. He loves to try and shut down top lines so he does have the motivation to do it. In any case, mental or physical something is off. But our Petey will over come it. He’s too good to stay down for too long. 3 5 1
Popular Post Attila Umbrus Posted November 5 Popular Post Posted November 5 3 minutes ago, Barnstorm said: Clearly the team has not been playing to their potential. When they do reach their best it won’t necessarily equate to an inordinate point level although I wouldn’t complain. They could well just win their games more convincingly and look better doing it. You will have to consult your empty liquor bottles for any specific numbers. I think we are seeing a team that got hit with a lot of changes over the summer plus into the pre season, dealing with adjusting to it all. Add it up. - Dak and his cancer, just before camp. - Demko and his injury and subsequent goalie scramble before camp. - Adding in new players and teaching them new systems (Desjarnais, Forbort, Heinen, Sprong, Sherwood, Brannstrom, Lankinen) -losing Mike Yeo who is a well respected coach probably didn’t help either. It will take a bit of time for all this to settle out. The fact we are keeping our head well above water in the standings all while having technically no starting goalie is just gravy. Look at Tampa last year, they didn’t have Vasilevski for the first 1/4 of the season. They rotated 2 goalies and played about .500 hockey while doing it. Thank goodness Lankinen has turned out so well. He’s pretty much the main reason we have held our ground as a team. 1 3 2
Popular Post Dr. Crossbar Posted November 5 Popular Post Posted November 5 I think Petey is really trying to play more Tocchet hockey and become more of that type of player. Especially defensively and physically in our end and also reflected in some of his retrievals in the Ozone. I do think Petey is really trying to add more of a Tocc dimension to his game, which doesn't come natural to him right now but will absolutely make him a better player as he matures. I also think he's trying hard to win the approval of his teammates and coach through a different style of play. This tough period, imo, will make him a better all-around player as he gets older. 5 6
Popular Post DeNiro Posted November 5 Popular Post Posted November 5 2 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: I think Petey is really trying to play more Tocchet hockey and become more of that type of player. Especially defensively and physically in our end and also reflected in some of his retrievals in the Ozone. I do think Petey is really trying to add more of a Tocc dimension to his game, which doesn't come natural to him right now but will absolutely make him a better player as he matures. I also think he's trying hard to win the approval of his teammates and coach through a different style of play. This tough period, imo, will make him a better all-around player as he gets older. Yep been trying to say that too. Look at the past three cup winners. Did any of those teams have forwards that didn’t play physical and have a strong two way game? If we wanna be a championship team and not just a playoff team, Petey has to take this next step. And it might come at a cost of his offensive output to start. 1 3 2
Dr. Crossbar Posted November 5 Posted November 5 5 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Yep been trying to say that too. Look at the past three cup winners. Did any of those teams have forwards that didn’t play physical and have a strong two way game? If we wanna be a championship team and not just a playoff team, Petey has to take this next step. And it might come at a cost of his offensive output to start. I know you have. I was actually going to tag you. I think people are mistaking a style of play that doesn't come naturally to him, the efforts to add that dimension to his game, as a lack of overall confidence that's leading to the slump. I think what we're seeing is a lack of confidence in that style of play - which is unavoidable - but also the commitment to that style and determination to push through it to get better. 3
Popular Post DeNiro Posted November 5 Popular Post Posted November 5 Just now, Dr. Crossbar said: I know you have. I was actually going to tag you. I think people are mistaking a style of play that doesn't come naturally to him, the efforts to add that dimension to his game, as a lack of overall confidence that's leading to the slump. I think what we're seeing is a lack of confidence in that style of play - which is unavoidable - but also the commitment to that style and determination to push through it to get better. Im constantly noting great defensive plays and him finishing his checks when I’m watching him lately. But of course people will say “well he doesn’t get paid 11.6 mil for that”. But I’m seeing the effort he’s making to add that element to his game. And like you said it’s not natural for him but like the coach has been saying from the beginning some players are going to have to get uncomfortable. Petey hasn’t forgotten how to play hockey. The points will come. If he can combine both then you have a superstar who has a complete game. And that’s the exciting. 5 3 1
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