PROPSAL-HOGLANDER FOR VATRANO

[garthsbutcher]

This might work for both teams, frank  would slot in nicely into our top 6 or 9. Ducks get younger and cost controlled. Worst case move him at deadline.

[Ghostsof1915]

We need defence. 

[Honkin Hronek]

Vatrano is a solid player, though he's not playing at the level he did last year. I'd be open to acquiring him as a pure rental but where does he fit in on our healthy roster? 

 

Suter - Miller - Boeser 

DeBrusk - Petey - Sherwood

Joshua - Blueger - Garland 

Heinen - Raty - Bains(?) 

 

I'm not convinced Suter or Sherwood last as the wings on their current lines so I could see him fitting in there, but he's a very similar player stylistically to Sprong and that obviously didn't work. Obviously Vatrano's better, but does either top six line need a pure sniper? I don't think so. 

 

I think I'd rather Hog++ be used to go all in on K'Andre Miller, Rasmus Andersson or a similar young defenseman. 

[Strawbone]

So often I watch Hoglander play and I think one day, he's going to figure it all out and be an amazing player, but it just isn't happening. He works so hard and skates well and never quits and is a real pest, I feel like he should be a 40-50 point guy consistently. Maybe some other GM will be thinking the same thing and give us a big haul for him. But I'd love to see him break out with the Canucks. Last year was pretty good but he's on pace for less than 25 points this year.

[Strawbone]

Double post

Edited Wednesday at 10:19 PM by Strawbone

[SuchaNuxtalgia]

Hogs & a pick for that Nasty Blue Jacket!

[Canuck You]

1 hour ago, Honkin Hronek said:

Vatrano is a solid player, though he's not playing at the level he did last year. I'd be open to acquiring him as a pure rental but where does he fit in on our healthy roster? 

 

Suter - Miller - Boeser 

DeBrusk - Petey - Sherwood

Joshua - Blueger - Garland 

Heinen - Raty - Bains(?) 

 

I'm not convinced Suter or Sherwood last as the wings on their current lines so I could see him fitting in there, but he's a very similar player stylistically to Sprong and that obviously didn't work. Obviously Vatrano's better, but does either top six line need a pure sniper? I don't think so. 

 

I think I'd rather Hog++ be used to go all in on K'Andre Miller, Rasmus Andersson or a similar young defenseman. 

Sherwood drops down to bottom 6 and Bains heads back to Abby? Sherwood, Garland are easily interchangeable pieces so it's not like the lines need to be set in stone.

 

Having said that, I agree with Ghost..Defense is more important, Much rather fix that instead.

Edited Wednesday at 11:39 PM by Canuck You

[Viking_10]

1 hour ago, Honkin Hronek said:

Vatrano is a solid player, though he's not playing at the level he did last year. I'd be open to acquiring him as a pure rental but where does he fit in on our healthy roster? 

 

Suter - Miller - Boeser 

 

Try Vatrano in Suter's spot??

[BigTramFan]

1 hour ago, SuchaNuxtalgia said:

Hogs & a pick for that Nasty Blue Jacket!

Olivier?

[Sophomore Jinx]

Hogz is awful, there's no way around that, even with 4th line duty he should be showing much more.

 

I am sure PA et al are looking to sell before he depreciates, coz he ain't gonna be the guy many think he'll be...just my opinion, but also the coach's too, who has never really trusted the guy enough to elevate him in the lineup.

[qwijjibo]

32 minutes ago, Sophomore Jinx said:

Hogz is awful, there's no way around that, even with 4th line duty he should be showing much more.

 

I am sure PA et al are looking to sell before he depreciates, coz he ain't gonna be the guy many think he'll be...just my opinion, but also the coach's too, who has never really trusted the guy enough to elevate him in the lineup.

He's an overpaid, undersized bottom 6 forward.  He got a contract coming off a career year with an unrepeatable shooting percentage.  I suspect it'll take retention to move him at this point 

[Alflives]

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[CanuckMan]

Hoglander and 1st round pick seems like the new Raymond, Ballard, 1st trade proposal.

[Kevlar]

On 11/28/2024 at 2:05 PM, CanuckMan said:

Hoglander and 1st round pick seems like the new Raymond, Ballard, 1st trade proposal.

 

I don't think it was ever a first. It was always Raymond, Ballard and a 2nd for (insert player name).

[Hammertime]

On 11/27/2024 at 1:59 PM, Ghostsof1915 said:

We need defence. 

 

 

 

 

Too much is being made of our D. It's not nearly as bad as people are making it out to be. Our problem is the lack of playmakers in our fwd group. Too many straight line downhill players and not enough puck movement. 

 

 

To the OP Love Vatrano. But he's just more of what we already have. We need to diversify.

 

Edited yesterday at 12:12 AM by Hammertime

[Ghostsof1915]

7 hours ago, Kevlar said:

 

I don't think it was ever a first. It was always Raymond, Ballard and a 2nd for (insert player name).

My memory could be faulty but I'm pretty sure it started out as Raymond, Ballard, and 1st. And depending on the player we were asking for that first, in some proposals were changed to 2nd. Then it just got so silly in the number of proposals, it became a punchline.