[Proposal] Petey to CLB

[HKSR]

To CLB:

Elias Pettersson

Erik Brannstrom

Danton Heinen

 

To VAN:

Kent Johnson

Ivan Provorov

Mathieu Olivier

Corson Ceulemans

 

If we ever get healthy again one day...

 

Suter-Miller-Boeser

Debrusk-Johnson-Lekkerimaki

Joshua-Blueger-Garland

Sherwood-Sasson-Olivier

 

Hughes-Hronek

Provorov-Myers

Soucy-Desharnais

 

Cap savings of $7.125M to go shopping for more....

 

 

[Bob Long]

Change that to Sillinger over KJ and I'm interested.

[Hammertime]

16 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

Change that to Sillinger over KJ and I'm interested.

Sillinger+ Mateychuk + Brindley and we'll take the 7.6m cap space and blow it all on hats. 

[Hammertime]

1 hour ago, HKSR said:

To CLB:

Elias Pettersson

Erik Brannstrom

Danton Heinen

 

To VAN:

Kent Johnson

Ivan Provorov

Mathieu Olivier

Corson Ceulemans

 

If we ever get healthy again one day...

 

Suter-Miller-Boeser

Debrusk-Johnson-Lekkerimaki

Joshua-Blueger-Garland

Sherwood-Sasson-Olivier

 

Hughes-Hronek

Provorov-Myers

Soucy-Desharnais

 

Cap savings of $7.125M to go shopping for more....

 

 

Jokes aside. I don't think Provorov has Canuck in his future. Realistically I would be very interested in Mateychuk. That would give us the cap space and the flexibility with a young blue chip D in the pipe to trade our 1st for someone who is maybe a better immediate fit. 

[VanOriginal]

If CBJ want Petey , I wouldn't settle for anything less than Fantilli and one of Sillinger/Voronkov/Marchenko. 

 

[MatchesMalone]

23 hours ago, HKSR said:

To CLB:

Elias Pettersson

Erik Brannstrom

Danton Heinen

 

To VAN:

Kent Johnson

Ivan Provorov

Mathieu Olivier

Corson Ceulemans

 

If we ever get healthy again one day...

 

Suter-Miller-Boeser

Debrusk-Johnson-Lekkerimaki

Joshua-Blueger-Garland

Sherwood-Sasson-Olivier

 

Hughes-Hronek

Provorov-Myers

Soucy-Desharnais

 

Cap savings of $7.125M to go shopping for more....

 

 

 

I'd like more than this for Pettersson. This feels closer to a Miller-callibre return to me.

[HKSR]

4 minutes ago, MatchesMalone said:

 

I'd like more than this for Pettersson. This feels closer to a Miller-callibre return to me.

Sure!  I'd do that too lol

[flickyoursedin]

I think I proposed Fantilli, Sillinger and Del Bell Belluz for Pettersson. Sucks to not snag a defence prospect but I don’t think they trade Mateychuk and I don’t think Cuelemans is going to be a top 4 dman in the NHL. Maybe swap out Del Bell Belluz for Svozil who is a 21 year old LD prospect for them.

[MatchesMalone]

1 minute ago, flickyoursedin said:

I think I proposed Fantilli, Sillinger and Del Bell Belluz for Pettersson. Sucks to not snag a defence prospect but I don’t think they trade Mateychuk and I don’t think Cuelemans is going to be a top 4 dman in the NHL. Maybe swap out Del Bell Belluz for Svozil who is a 21 year old LD prospect for them.

 

I can't imagine them moving Fantilli.

[flickyoursedin]

2 minutes ago, MatchesMalone said:

 

I can't imagine them moving Fantilli.

If they want Pettersson you need to give an actual blue chip prospect. I like Sillinger but he might only be a 40-50 point 2nd line player. Petey is a potential 100 point 1C! For me if Fantiili isn’t involved then we’re talking Miller trade.

[Phil_314]

I'd need some mix of Fantilli + 1 of Chinakhov/ Voronkov + Provorov coming back.
Fantilli would be the upside piece at center (20 points in 42 games but there's probably more there), while Provorov would be a needed RD option.  Unless they're willing to add a 1st I'd still want either of the young Russians (not Marchenko, can't afford him now given his breakout) since Petey at point/ game status this season would still be far and away the best player being moved.   

[MatchesMalone]

1 hour ago, flickyoursedin said:

If they want Pettersson you need to give an actual blue chip prospect. I like Sillinger but he might only be a 40-50 point 2nd line player. Petey is a potential 100 point 1C! For me if Fantiili isn’t involved then we’re talking Miller trade.

 

Why does it have to be Columbus?

[DixonWard]

On 1/7/2025 at 2:57 PM, Bob Long said:

Change that to Sillinger over KJ and I'm interested.

Out of interest, KJ seems like a much better offensive player, why would you choose Sillinger?

[Bob Long]

7 minutes ago, DixonWard said:

Out of interest, KJ seems like a much better offensive player, why would you choose Sillinger?

 

size, and I think fits tocc's system better. But I didn't factor in the hometown thing, so it's probably not a go. 

[Komodo0921]

Elias Pettersson and Jonathan Lekkerimaki, 2025, 2nd round pick for Dmitri Voronkov, Cole Sillinger, Cayden Lindstrom.

[flickyoursedin]

On 1/10/2025 at 12:18 PM, MatchesMalone said:

 

Why does it have to be Columbus?

Why does what have to be Columbus? Trading for Pettersson? It first have to be but the other rumoured teams sniffing Columbus has the better young talent that could turn into stars. NYR and Boston have nothing. Carolina and Buffalo are intriguing but if Columbus really wanted him I think they could make the most enticing package for Vancouver.

[MatchesMalone]

28 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said:

Why does what have to be Columbus? Trading for Pettersson? It first have to be but the other rumoured teams sniffing Columbus has the better young talent that could turn into stars. NYR and Boston have nothing. Carolina and Buffalo are intriguing but if Columbus really wanted him I think they could make the most enticing package for Vancouver.

 

Lol if you say so.

[flickyoursedin]

3 hours ago, MatchesMalone said:

 

Lol if you say so.

Just look at the players and prospects NYR has 1 with nice upside in Perreault and sure Schneider is alright but they’re unwilling to deal both these guys what they want to give is Zibanejad and Krieder. Boston doesn’t have any good blue chip prospects. What do they have on their team in the mid to young 20’s that you’d trade Miller or Pettersson for? I’d be looking at Columbus, Buffalo and Carolina those teams have much better assets then both NYR and Boston.

[MatchesMalone]

1 hour ago, flickyoursedin said:

Just look at the players and prospects NYR has 1 with nice upside in Perreault and sure Schneider is alright but they’re unwilling to deal both these guys what they want to give is Zibanejad and Krieder. Boston doesn’t have any good blue chip prospects. What do they have on their team in the mid to young 20’s that you’d trade Miller or Pettersson for? I’d be looking at Columbus, Buffalo and Carolina those teams have much better assets then both NYR and Boston.

 

New York wants to trade Zibanejad but not Perreault or Schneider? Are you listening to yourself?

 

Schneider is a fringe NHL defenseman who may or may not (most likely not) develop into a top 4 D. Not a relevant piece in a Pettersson deal.

 

The Rangers do however have Alexis Lafreniere, Will Cuyle, Filip Chytil, K'Andre Miller, Gabe Perreault, Brennan Othman. I'm not gonna pretend to know who they are and aren't willing to trade, but they have pieces to do it if they choose.

 

I'd be more inclined to agree with you about Boston. Their not-quite-dynasty is getting to the end of its rope. They've got a couple more good years but the core is aging and not much in the pipeline.

 

If the Canucks need to make a trade, I'd much rather it be Miller, unless a team was willing to pony up a piece like Lafreniere.

Edited yesterday at 05:09 AM by MatchesMalone

[Elias Pettersson]

On 1/10/2025 at 11:08 AM, flickyoursedin said:

If they want Pettersson you need to give an actual blue chip prospect. I like Sillinger but he might only be a 40-50 point 2nd line player. Petey is a potential 100 point 1C! For me if Fantiili isn’t involved then we’re talking Miller trade.

 

Petey already scored over 100 points 2 years ago…

[flickyoursedin]

26 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

Petey already scored over 100 points 2 years ago…

Yes I know but he’s kind of been slumping since then and hasn’t quite looked like that Pettersson. I say it as he has the potential to get to that milestone every year as we already know he can do it!

Edited 22 hours ago by flickyoursedin

[flickyoursedin]

3 hours ago, MatchesMalone said:

 

New York wants to trade Zibanejad but not Perreault or Schneider? Are you listening to yourself?

 

Schneider is a fringe NHL defenseman who may or may not (most likely not) develop into a top 4 D. Not a relevant piece in a Pettersson deal.

 

The Rangers do however have Alexis Lafreniere, Will Cuyle, Filip Chytil, K'Andre Miller, Gabe Perreault, Brennan Othman. I'm not gonna pretend to know who they are and aren't willing to trade, but they have pieces to do it if they choose.

 

I'd be more inclined to agree with you about Boston. Their not-quite-dynasty is getting to the end of its rope. They've got a couple more good years but the core is aging and not much in the pipeline.

 

If the Canucks need to make a trade, I'd much rather it be Miller, unless a team was willing to pony up a piece like Lafreniere.

But do you really want Lafreniere? Put up 57 points last year riding shotgun with Panarin who put up 120 points! Helped Lafreniere sign for 7.45 mill a season and he’s on pace for 45 points this year! I like the way he plays but I think Lafreniere could end up being a nightmare trade return. Chytil is a middle 6 winger. I like K’Andre Miller, Perrault and Othmann is alright. I just don’t think the value is as strong as the other 3 teams rumoured to be interested.

[MatchesMalone]

8 hours ago, flickyoursedin said:

But do you really want Lafreniere? Put up 57 points last year riding shotgun with Panarin who put up 120 points! Helped Lafreniere sign for 7.45 mill a season and he’s on pace for 45 points this year! I like the way he plays but I think Lafreniere could end up being a nightmare trade return. Chytil is a middle 6 winger. I like K’Andre Miller, Perrault and Othmann is alright. I just don’t think the value is as strong as the other 3 teams rumoured to be interested.

 

Yes.

 

Not straight across for Pettersson but would be a significant centerpiece.

 

Former first overall pick, only just turned 23. We know these power forward types always take a little longer to develop because such a big part of makes them so dominant in junior is the ability to physically overpower everyone, which they obviously can't do in the NHL, but by the time he's 25 or 26 he should be able to bring a lot of that power game to the NHL. 6'2 but still listed at 196; I'd like to see him playing in the 205-215 range in his prime.

 

44 of of Panarin's points came on the powerplay last year. Lafreniere's analytics are outstanding at 5 on 5.

 

Personally I never had any illusions that Lafreniere was going to be an offensive superstar. I had him ranked 1st overall his draft year but always said guys like Stutzle, Raymond, Byfield and some others had higher upside, but Lafreniere would always be the safest bet to be a 70-80 point producer and play the type of low-zone possession game and create his chances out of the corners and around the net that would make him a driving force in playoff hockey.

[Elias Pettersson]

9 hours ago, flickyoursedin said:

Yes I know but he’s kind of been slumping since then and hasn’t quite looked like that Pettersson. I say it as he has the potential to get to that milestone every year as we already know he can do it!

FYI, Sidney Crosby hit 100+ points 6 times in 20 years.  Joe Sakic did it 6 times in 20 years. Steve Yzerman did it 6 times in 22 years.  Our own Henrik Sedin, a Hart trophy winner and Hall of Famer, did it only once in 17 years. 
 

Scoring 100+ points in the NHL is hard. If your expectation is that Petey must do it every single year in order to justify his contract, then you will probably be very disappointed with him. 

[TheMightyQuinns]

5 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

FYI, Sidney Crosby hit 100+ points 6 times in 20 years.  Joe Sakic did it 6 times in 20 years. Steve Yzerman did it 6 times in 22 years.  Our own Henrik Sedin, a Hart trophy winner and Hall of Famer, did it only once in 17 years. 
 

Scoring 100+ points in the NHL is hard. If your expectation is that Petey must do it every single year in order to justify his contract, then you will probably be very disappointed with him. 

I'm not sure that's what we expect from him. A point per game, selke caliber player is more than enough. Last night's performance looked like a turning point  going forward. Pretty sure Miller would approve...