[discussion] forward pairs in the bottom 6

[Huggy Bear]

As we ice a more NHL calibre lineup in games 4-6, what duos should anchor our bottom six?

 

Suter-Garland have the potential to form a two way, depth scoring line. 
 

Blueger- Beau seems rich for a 4th line, but do they compliment each other?

 

Given Blueger’s  strong showing in Edmonton, do you want him paired with a more defensive winger? 

[Nucker67]

I wouldn't mind seeing as a 3rd Line

 

DiGiuseppe - Blueger - Hoglander

 

I think they'd be fast, aggressive

 

[DrJockitch]

Our 4th line will be Blueger and the 2 penalty killing wingers that Tocchet likes the best. 

[Huggy Bear]

1 minute ago, Nucker67 said:

I wouldn't mind seeing as a 3rd Line

 

DiGiuseppe - Blueger - Hoglander

 

I think they'd be fast, aggressive

 

 

Haven’t considered that combo…interesting 

 

Just now, DrJockitch said:

Our 4th line will be Blueger and the 2 penalty killing wingers that Tocchet likes the best. 

Blueger - PDG makes sense as a pairing in either scenario. 

 

 

[Pears]

I like the idea of a Joshua-Blueger-PDG line a lot. 

[EdgarM]

2 hours ago, Huggy Bear said:

As we ice a more NHL calibre lineup in games 4-6, what duos should anchor our bottom six?

 

Suter-Garland have the potential to form a two way, depth scoring line. 
 

Blueger- Beau seems rich for a 4th line, but do they compliment each other?

 

Given Blueger’s  strong showing in Edmonton, do you want him paired with a more defensive winger? 

I like Blueger, Beau and Garland, they have tenacity and skill to play our third line for added offence, however, I am not convinced Boeser stays in the top six TBH. 

Garland or Beau may find them selves playing higher in the line up at some point of the season. 

I think a couple of big wingers and Suter round out the fourth line.

[Integra250]

Assuming Hoglander is on the top line while Mikheyev is out...

 

Hoglander-Pettersson-Kuzmenko

Podkolzin-Miller-Boeser

Beauvillier-Blueger-Garland

PDG-Suter-Joshua

Aman

 

[Jester13]

1 hour ago, Integra250 said:

Assuming Hoglander is on the top line while Mikheyev is out...

 

Hoglander-Pettersson-Kuzmenko

Podkolzin-Miller-Boeser

Beauvillier-Blueger-Garland

PDG-Suter-Joshua

Aman

 

If Podz doesn't blow the coaches hats off in the final preseason games, he'll be in Abby. He hasn't been good at all.

 

Hogs - Petey - Kuzy

PDG - Miller - Boeser

Beau - Suter - Garland

Joshua - Blueger - Aman

Edited September 29, 2023 by Jester13

[Huggy Bear]

2 hours ago, Pears said:

I like the idea of a Joshua-Blueger-PDG line a lot. 

Our best defensive wingers (after Mikheyev) could be good…

[Huggy Bear]

2 hours ago, EdgarM said:

I like Blueger, Beau and Garland, they have tenacity and skill to play our third line for added offence, however, I am not convinced Boeser stays in the top six TBH. 

Garland or Beau may find them selves playing higher in the line up at some point of the season. 

I think a couple of big wingers and Suter round out the fourth line.

good compliment of scoring wingers with our best 2 way center…so you think TB will win the 3C spot?

[Huggy Bear]

41 minutes ago, Jester13 said:

If Podz doesn't blow the coaches hats off in the final preseason games, he'll be in Abby. He hasn't been good at all.

 

Hogs - Petey - Kuzy

PDG - Miller - Boeser

Beau - Suter - Garland

Joshua - Blueger - Aman

agreed on Podz, and there’s no risk in sending him down.  Would rather take a long patient look at Högs since he’s waiver eligible.

 

so you see Suter - Garland and Blueger - Joshua as the bottom 6 pairs?

[phil.adelic]

mikh/hogländer - Petey - Kuzy

hogländer/pdg - Miller - Boeser

Beau - pius - Garland

pdg - Blueger - Aman

 

 

[Jester13]

12 minutes ago, Huggy Bear said:

agreed on Podz, and there’s no risk in sending him down.  Would rather take a long patient look at Högs since he’s waiver eligible.

 

so you see Suter - Garland and Blueger - Joshua as the bottom 6 pairs?

I do. I could see PDG and Beau moving up and down the bottom six, as well as Brock and Kuzy up and down the top six.

[Huggy Bear]

12 minutes ago, Jester13 said:

I do. I could see PDG and Beau moving up and down the bottom six, as well as Brock and Kuzy up and down the top six.

PDG and Beau definitely seem like moveable parts.
 

Wonder if Joshua has responded well enough to earn a job / part of a pairing. He makes sense with Blueger on a checking line and on the PK.  

[smithers joe]

for me, it's;

kuzmenko... pettersson... (hard to play against winger)

mikheyev...miller... boeser/ beauvillier

PDG...suter...garland/hoglander

joshua...blueger...studnika/aman

[wai_lai416]

2 hours ago, Integra250 said:

Assuming Hoglander is on the top line while Mikheyev is out...

 

Hoglander-Pettersson-Kuzmenko

Podkolzin-Miller-Boeser

Beauvillier-Blueger-Garland

PDG-Suter-Joshua

Aman

 

hoglander and podkolzin have done nothing to stick with the team nor have they shown any offensive capability to be on the top 2 lines in the preseason.. hoglander if anything dragged the EP line down in his first game with his decisions in the offensive zone passing instead of shooting etc. if those are our top 2 lines we are probably gonna see more like last night with the offensive struggles.. hoglander and podkolzin are not top 6 players at this point of their progression and they kinda weigh down the offence.

[Huggy Bear]

55 minutes ago, smithers joe said:

for me, it's;

kuzmenko... pettersson... (hard to play against winger)

mikheyev...miller... boeser/ beauvillier

PDG...suter...garland/hoglander

joshua...blueger...studnika/aman

Cheers Joe.

While Mikheyev will improve any line, I am intrigued by putting him with Miller. As others have mentioned, he’s like an upgraded PDG there, making it a better matchup line, and freeing up PDG for the bottom six.

[Huggy Bear]

49 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

hoglander and podkolzin have done nothing to stick with the team nor have they shown any offensive capability to be on the top 2 lines in the preseason.. hoglander if anything dragged the EP line down in his first game with his decisions in the offensive zone passing instead of shooting etc. if those are our top 2 lines we are probably gonna see more like last night with the offensive struggles.. hoglander and podkolzin are not top 6 players at this point of their progression and they kinda weigh down the offence.

Whats your lineup then?

[wai_lai416]

51 minutes ago, Huggy Bear said:

Whats your lineup then?

don't really have ideal lineup but beauvillier and garland prolly should be in the top 6 before hoglander and podkolzin until mik is back and then u can have hoglander podkolzin or whoever shows they are better on the defensive side and willing to crash and bang on the 3rd/4th line for the time being.. hoglander will prolly be on the team by default because i don't see them risking him on waivers.. someone will take him for free.  hoglander can take garlands spot on the 3rd line. at least beauvillier and garland shows more offence than podz and hogs at this point

[EdgarM]

5 hours ago, Huggy Bear said:

good compliment of scoring wingers with our best 2 way center…so you think TB will win the 3C spot?

Yeah I watched him last year in Vegas and he did seem like a great checking center but his play here he seems to have more jump and the ability to generate more offense with his speed and smarts. Thats why I would like to see him with Beau and Garland , two others who have speed and the smarts to create offensive plays.

[Huggy Bear]

 

2 hours ago, wai_lai416 said:

don't really have ideal lineup but beauvillier and garland prolly should be in the top 6 before hoglander and podkolzin until mik is back and then u can have hoglander podkolzin or whoever shows they are better on the defensive side and willing to crash and bang on the 3rd/4th line for the time being.. hoglander will prolly be on the team by default because i don't see them risking him on waivers.. someone will take him for free.  hoglander can take garlands spot on the 3rd line. at least beauvillier and garland shows more offence than podz and hogs at this point

 

So load the top 6 with our most skilled wingers, like this?

 

    Beau - Petey - Kuz

Garland - JTM - Boeser

Then surround these 3 with the most physical defensive wingers? 
(eg. PDG, Joshua, Studnicka,Åman)

 

                Suter - Höglander

               Blueger

[Huggy Bear]

2 minutes ago, EdgarM said:

Yeah I watched him last year in Vegas and he did seem like a great checking center but his play here he seems to have more jump and the ability to generate more offense with his speed and smarts. Thats why I would like to see him with Beau and Garland , two others who have speed and the smarts to create offensive plays.

Awesome. I like that it’s an intentional identity for that line, speed and smarts.

 

When Blueger was originally signed, he was pencilled in as 3C. After seeing him in Edmonton, I can picture it.

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, Huggy Bear said:

Awesome. I like that it’s an intentional identity for that line, speed and smarts.

 

When Blueger was originally signed, he was pencilled in as 3C. After seeing him in Edmonton, I can picture it.

Teddy is good. So us Suter. Our bottom six looks good. 105 points. We are going to be Gillis great! 

[Gawdzukes]

9 hours ago, Huggy Bear said:

As we ice a more NHL calibre lineup in games 4-6, what duos should anchor our bottom six?

 

Suter-Garland have the potential to form a two way, depth scoring line. 
 

Blueger- Beau seems rich for a 4th line, but do they compliment each other?

 

Given Blueger’s  strong showing in Edmonton, do you want him paired with a more defensive winger? 

 

All I know is that I really loved Blueger's game the other night. I wanted him centering a third checking line but that's looking like it may be Suter's line. Definitely want him with a good defensive winger. Do we have any of those or did we make a trade I missed? 

[Huggy Bear]

20 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said:

 

All I know is that I really loved Blueger's game the other night. I wanted him centering a third checking line but that's looking like it may be Suter's line. Definitely want him with a good defensive winger. Do we have any of those or did we make a trade I missed? 

I think the internal candidates are Joshua, PDG or Åman. Ideally, we’d trade for a more proven, physical PK specialist like Yakov Trenin.