BigTramFan Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Both players have a $4.15m cap hit for one more season. TOR are reportedly looking to trade for Zadorov ($3.75m) and likely have to move Klingberg to make the cap work. However, Klingberg has a 10 team no-trade list, which I bet Calgary is on. If TOR makes this move first (at just the cost of returning our 2024 5th round pick), then TOR will be able to trade Beau+ to CGY in return for Zadorov. Essentially VAN moves a spare winger for a spare defenseman. Would be good to have some more NHL quality depth on the blueline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghostsof1915 Posted November 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2023 How does this benefit either team? Toronto doesn't need scoring, it needs defence. Vancouver doesn't need a Chaos Swede. Why especially would Toronto throw in a 5th? Charity? Vancouver just dumped an overpriced Swedish defenseman, so the solution is find another for the rest of the season? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Isn't Klingberg's career over or something? lol I came across this the other day https://www.markerzone.com/news/index.php?no=302277 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: How does this benefit either team? Toronto doesn't need scoring, it needs defence. Vancouver doesn't need a Chaos Swede. Why especially would Toronto throw in a 5th? Charity? Vancouver just dumped an overpriced Swedish defenseman, so the solution is find another for the rest of the season? Most of these questions are answered in the OP. TOR would be moving Beau for an upgrade on their defense (Zadorov). VAN's blueline depth is non-existent. We are currently icing 2 AHL level players. Klingberg is at least an NHL quality defenseman that would likely excel playing 3rd pairing minutes (he cannot handle 21 mins like he is being asked to play in TOR). This is a different way to move out one of our untradeable wingers in order to add depth to our blueline for this season, without spending 1st round picks. Edited November 22, 2023 by BigTramFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) Yeah. Toronto will be putting Klingberg on LTIR. Doing this trade actually makes it MORE difficult for them to find the cap space to trade for a defenceman. Assuming that Calgary would have any interest in moving Zadorov for Beauvillier is a pretty big assumption with no grounding in fact Edited November 22, 2023 by qwijjibo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 33 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: Yeah. Toronto will be putting Klingberg on LTIR. Doing this trade actually makes it MORE difficult for them to find the cap space to trade for a defenceman. Assuming that Calgary would have any interest in moving Zadorov for Beauvillier is a pretty big assumption with no grounding in fact Yeah except I didn't say Beau for Zad, I said Beau+ for Zadorov, the + will likely need to be a 1st round pick from TOR to CGY If CGY wants to trade Zad to TOR they are going to have to take back some cap to make the deal work. Klingberg is unlikely moveable to CGY due to his mNTC, whereas Beau has no trade protection. I don't think CGY would have the slightest interest in Beau, but they will need to take salary back to make it work for TOR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Lol Calgary doesn't need another mediocre winger (Huberdeau, Sharangovich, Ruzicka, Dube). Vancouver doesn't need an offensive D (Hughes, Hronek). Meanwhile Toronto gets Zadorov to help with their D for a playoff push. Let's not help the Leafs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Phil_314 said: Lol Calgary doesn't need another mediocre winger (Huberdeau, Sharangovich, Ruzicka, Dube). Vancouver doesn't need an offensive D (Hughes, Hronek). Meanwhile Toronto gets Zadorov to help with their D for a playoff push. Let's not help the Leafs. VAN also doesn't need another mediocre winger in Beau. IMO we could better use that cap hit on any NHL level defenseman (offensive or otherwise). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, BigTramFan said: Yeah except I didn't say Beau for Zad, I said Beau+ for Zadorov, the + will likely need to be a 1st round pick from TOR to CGY If CGY wants to trade Zad to TOR they are going to have to take back some cap to make the deal work. Klingberg is unlikely moveable to CGY due to his mNTC, whereas Beau has no trade protection. I don't think CGY would have the slightest interest in Beau, but they will need to take salary back to make it work for TOR. With Kljngberg going on LTIR Toronto will have a lot more cap flexibility to make a Zadorov trade without having to include an asset that Calgary will have little interest in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: With Kljngberg going on LTIR Toronto will have a lot more cap flexibility to make a Zadorov trade without having to include an asset that Calgary will have little interest in. If he goes onto LTIR for the rest of the season (which he hasn't yet) then absolutely no need for TOR to try and trade him. Paves the way for a deal with CGY without needing to send any cap their way. And zero need for the proposed trade above. The timing seems a little too convenient for TOR if you ask me! Edited November 22, 2023 by BigTramFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, BigTramFan said: If he goes onto LTIR for the rest of the season (which he hasn't yet) then absolutely no need for TOR to try and trade him. Paves the way for a deal with CGY without needing to send any cap their way. And zero need for the proposed trade above. The timing seems a little too convenient for TOR if you ask me! I see you have never visited Robidas Island 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckYa Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 3 hours ago, BigTramFan said: Most of these questions are answered in the OP. TOR would be moving Beau for an upgrade on their defense (Zadorov). VAN's blueline depth is non-existent. We are currently icing 2 AHL level players. Klingberg is at least an NHL quality defenseman that would likely excel playing 3rd pairing minutes (he cannot handle 21 mins like he is being asked to play in TOR). This is a different way to move out one of our untradeable wingers in order to add depth to our blueline for this season, without spending 1st round picks. Why wouldn't we just trade Beauvillier for Zadorov??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) Seems like poor value. Are we a bottom feeder that we should be looking to take on LTIR contracts for very low level pics? Why would we want to help these Jack offs get a player that we apparently covet. Edited November 22, 2023 by DrJockitch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 https://theleafsnation.com/news/chris-johnston-klingberg-uncertain-future-nagging-injuries No thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 11 hours ago, BigTramFan said: Both players have a $4.15m cap hit for one more season. TOR are reportedly looking to trade for Zadorov ($3.75m) and likely have to move Klingberg to make the cap work. However, Klingberg has a 10 team no-trade list, which I bet Calgary is on. If TOR makes this move first (at just the cost of returning our 2024 5th round pick), then TOR will be able to trade Beau+ to CGY in return for Zadorov. Essentially VAN moves a spare winger for a spare defenseman. Would be good to have some more NHL quality depth on the blueline. Trading for a defenseman whose career is most likely over is such a great idea....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 9 hours ago, BigTramFan said: VAN also doesn't need another mediocre winger in Beau. IMO we could better use that cap hit on any NHL level defenseman (offensive or otherwise). Beau could be packaged up with another player and possibly a pick for a defenseman who's actually useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Klingberg can't play in the NHL anymore. He'd struggle to get playing time in Abbotsford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Dont think Klingberg’s style of play would mesh well w Tocchett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 On 11/21/2023 at 9:52 PM, BigTramFan said: VAN also doesn't need another mediocre winger in Beau. IMO we could better use that cap hit on any NHL level defenseman (offensive or otherwise). I'd tend to disagree, seeing how Klingberg is pretty much offensively oriented. Being awful in your own end on Vancouver doesn't really work when we already have a potential liability in Myers. Furthermore, if his offense isn't good enough to stick with a vaunted offense like Toronto's, I'm not sure he should be a target when that's his bread and butter. His countryman (Karlsson) can stick with Pittsburgh and co-exist with Letang because both can pop off, but if he's firmly stuck behind Hughes and Hronek and maybe not even that good in his own end, he doesn't bring much to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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