CanadianDeplorable Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 To New Jersey: Elias Petterson, Brock Boeser, and two 1st rounders To Vancouver: Jack Hughes, Luke Hughes and a 2nd Make it so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 New Jersey isn’t going to want to take on all that salary cap space. While Pettersson is the better center, JH is on a very team friendly contract for the foreseeable future. They also won’t want to give up a future stud defenceman. Not even for Pettersson, Boeser and 2 first round picks. This deal heavily favours the Canucks and I would do it in a heartbeat, but New Jersey is too smart to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianDeplorable Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said: New Jersey isn’t going to want to take on all that salary cap space. While Pettersson is the better center, JH is on a very team friendly contract for the foreseeable future. They also won’t want to give up a future stud defenceman. Not even for Pettersson, Boeser and 2 first round picks. This deal heavily favours the Canucks and I would do it in a heartbeat, but New Jersey is too smart to do it. Then throw in a Messier rookie card as a sweetener... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I'd be game for this if Petey says he will not re sign If Luke continues his play from the playoffs, watch out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianDeplorable Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Beni said: I'd be game for this if Petey says he will not re sign If Luke continues his play from the playoffs, watch out. Captain Quinn would be mighty happy to have his brothers play in Vancouver. Probably a lot nicer than New Jersey, to boot. Would trade whomever it takes, to be honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I'm not horny over the idea of uniting the Hughes brothers. The trade actually seems pretty fair though. We'd likely need to take a player of their choosing back to make cap work though, for them. Or retain on Brock 50%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 6 hours ago, IBatch said: I'm not horny over the idea of uniting the Hughes brothers. The trade actually seems pretty fair though. We'd likely need to take a player of their choosing back to make cap work though, for them. Or retain on Brock 50%. i dunno about fair i'm gonna say it heavily leans towards vancouver. Jack hughes and EP is probably a wash in terms of value assuming EP re-signs with jersey. Jack hughes offensively probably slightly better with a higher ceiling than EP but defensively is weaker and they are both awful at faceoff but Jack's cap hit will offset whatever defensive weakness compared to EP which is likely going to be a 3mil gap. Boeser value isn't all that high.. nor does jersey have a need for him. if i was the gm there's no way in hell i'm trading luke hughes for boeser and 2 1st that's going to be in the mid/middle late round. Jack hughes + Luke hughes would definitely make this team a playoff staple. luke hughes will probably win a norris before quinn will.. very similar playstyle but with a huge size advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby James Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 22 hours ago, CanadianDeplorable said: To New Jersey: Elias Petterson, Brock Boeser, and two 1st rounders To Vancouver: Jack Hughes, Luke Hughes and a 2nd Make it so. We're getting fleeced. We give up the best player available and 2 firsts. I say pass on the Canucks end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 We'd have to at least offer one of Raymond or Ballard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EB43 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: We'd have to at least offer one of Raymond or Ballard Easy on the beers bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Bobby James said: We're getting fleeced. We give up the best player available and 2 firsts. I say pass on the Canucks end. From a cap standpoint alone NJ rejects this. An thsts not factoring in the fact that Jack just put up 99 points as a 21 year old and has one of the best value contracts in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudi mar Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 That's just pretty illogical with all due respect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 3 hours ago, qwijjibo said: From a cap standpoint alone NJ rejects this. An thsts not factoring in the fact that Jack just put up 99 points as a 21 year old and has one of the best value contracts in the league. Actually the fact is Petey is worth a lot more than Jack Hughes by himself. Us adding Boeser and firsts is way over payment. A fair trade is Petey for Jack and Luke Hughes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 6:46 PM, Alflives said: Actually the fact is Petey is worth a lot more than Jack Hughes by himself. Us adding Boeser and firsts is way over payment. A fair trade is Petey for Jack and Luke Hughes. You forgot futures lol And a case of beer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWN Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 NJ would laugh in your face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Petey, Willander, Lekkermaki, and a 1st for Jack and Luke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) On 9/21/2023 at 10:48 PM, Jester13 said: Petey, Willander, Lekkermaki, and a 1st for Jack and Luke No way you trade Willander... he is what this team needs. Edited October 17, 2023 by canuck73 Auto correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Here I thought all the dumb proposals were in the old forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby James Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 9/21/2023 at 10:48 PM, Jester13 said: Petey, Willander, Lekkermaki, and a 1st for Jack and Luke Luke hasn't completely proven what he is yet. So once again we're getting fleeced here lol Petey is better then Jack. Luke is an NHL Dman at such a young age, but does he steady out at top 4 LD or is he like Quinn and is closer to a #1. Unknown still. Lastly we give up 2 higher tier prospects and a 1st. Nah. Resign Petey and work to keep Quinn invested in Vancouver (being a captain helps with that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bobby James said: Luke hasn't completely proven what he is yet. So once again we're getting fleeced here lol Petey is better then Jack. Luke is an NHL Dman at such a young age, but does he steady out at top 4 LD or is he like Quinn and is closer to a #1. Unknown still. Lastly we give up 2 higher tier prospects and a 1st. Nah. Resign Petey and work to keep Quinn invested in Vancouver (being a captain helps with that). Hughes is 2 1/2 years younger and put up almost the same points as Pettersson last seadin. Saying Pettersson is better is debatable now, let alone once Hughes has a couple more seasons under his belt. Add the fact that he's signed long term to one of the best value contracts in the league and there is literally no reason for NJ to move him for an unsigned Pettersson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Habs are in big trouble. Missed draft picks (2 bustaroos in a row) and a puck sucker team. Thank Goodness we have our great young players. We aren’t trading them. Petey is way better than Jack Hughes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead91 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 3:27 PM, CanadianDeplorable said: To New Jersey: Elias Petterson, Brock Boeser, and two 1st rounders To Vancouver: Jack Hughes, Luke Hughes and a 2nd Make it so. Yea lets get a 1 for 1 trade and a legit top 6 and 2 future picks for.... A guy whos played 5 games.... I'm sorry but no thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Canucklehead91 said: Yea lets get a 1 for 1 trade and a legit top 6 and 2 future picks for.... A guy whos played 5 games.... I'm sorry but no thanks lol Jack hughes at 8mil for 7 years alone is worth EP and a 1st.. so brock boeser + 1st for luke hughes? easy pass for NJ JH is better offensively EP is better defensively.. the fact Hughes is 3 years younger and signed to a massive steal contract for the next 7 years.. he's easily worth way more than EP unless he's signed at like 10mil or something. LH with his upside/potential and the 8 games so far including playoff have looked everything as advertise.. plus the fact he's on team friendly ELC?? JH and LH combines for 9mil.. EP and boeser combines prolly closer to 18-19mil... even if LH runs out of ELC and they sign him to a bridge.. maybe 13-14mil combined.. EP + Brock + 2 1st is not even enough to start the conversation.. the amount of cap space alone is already worth more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) On 10/17/2023 at 7:06 PM, qwijjibo said: Hughes is 2 1/2 years younger and put up almost the same points as Pettersson last seadin. Saying Pettersson is better is debatable now, let alone once Hughes has a couple more seasons under his belt. Add the fact that he's signed long term to one of the best value contracts in the league and there is literally no reason for NJ to move him for an unsigned Pettersson You'd assume it was a trade and sign. Really this only makes sense for NJ if they are trying to win a cup now. So looks more like EP, Brock 50% retained , Hronek 50% retained and Kuzmenko, for JHs, LHs and two of what they consider, their worst contracts where Brock and Kuzmenko will go. This would be a rebuild move for us of course. And for them, a lot of the pieces to challenge for a cup. And even then, it likely would require something else - Willander likely and possibly a third party to help further retain on both Brock and Hronek so they can free up cap for the finishing touches before the trade deadline. Would you do it then? We'd probably offer Cole, they'd probably counter Hronek. Edited October 19, 2023 by IBatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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