HKSR Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Trade 1 To ANA Kuzmenko 1st Round Pick To VAN Vatrano @ 50% retained Trade 2 To CAL 2nd round pick To VAN Tanev Trade 3 To MTL McDonough Johansson To VAN Monahan @ 50% rretained Miller-Petey-Boeser Mikheyev-Monahan-Vatrano Garland-Blueger-Joshua Hoglander-Suter-Lafferty Aman Hughes-Hronek Soucy-Tanev Zadorov-Myers Cole Juulsen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Canuck fans. Management sucks they always trade away our 2nd round picks! Also Canuck fans. Proposals to trade our second round picks.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 17 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Canuck fans. Management sucks they always trade away our 2nd round picks! Also Canuck fans. Proposals to trade our second round picks.... When rebuilding? Yes. Sucks to trade away 2nds. When trying to compete for a cup? 2nds won't help for likely 4 to 5 years which would be well outside a contending window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 The rumored price for Monahan is a 1st. There's going to be several interested teams. I doubt 2 disappointing depth prospects gets Hughes's attention. Especially if you want retention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 11 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: The rumored price for Monahan is a 1st. There's going to be several interested teams. I doubt 2 disappointing depth prospects gets Hughes's attention. Especially if you want retention. lol, just a brutal one sided offer from a Canucks fan. McDonough is absolutely brutal and Johansson isn't much better. I'd like to see the Canucks in on him but it's going to take a lot more than that. Not sure we have what it takes as I don't want to give up our first. Maybe 2025 2nd and Brzustewicz is getting closer? Do you thin Monahan could play the Horvat role on the PP? Edited January 27 by Gawdzukes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Just now, Gawdzukes said: lol, just a brutal one sided offer from a Canucks fan. McDonough is absolutely brutal and Johansson isn't much better. I'd like to see the Canucks in on him but it's going to take a lot more than that. Not sure we have what it takes as I don't want to give up our first. Maybe 2025 2nd and Brzustewicz is getting closer? Brustewicz might be interesting If Montreal didn't already have Hutson. But with Hutson in the organization I doubt they have much interest in another diminutive offensive D. That said the value is probably in the right ballpark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: Brustewicz might be interesting If Montreal didn't already have Hutson. But with Hutson in the organization I doubt they have much interest in another diminutive offensive D. That said the value is probably in the right ballpark Yeah, that's what I felt too. You guys are kind of set on young D and D prospects. I'm sure you'd like a Center back but we only have Raty and I don't think we can part with him because of it. Damn, Monahan sure checks a lot of boxes for me as to what I think we're looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 13 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: lol, just a brutal one sided offer from a Canucks fan. McDonough is absolutely brutal and Johansson isn't much better. I'd like to see the Canucks in on him but it's going to take a lot more than that. Not sure we have what it takes as I don't want to give up our first. Maybe 2025 2nd and Brzustewicz is getting closer? Do you thin Monahan could play the Horvat role on the PP? Monahan can certainly play the bumper and has performed decently on the Habs PP in that role. But we are essentially a 1-unit powerplay, and I'm sure Vancouver wants to see if they can ride Suter first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 28 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: The rumored price for Monahan is a 1st. There's going to be several interested teams. I doubt 2 disappointing depth prospects gets Hughes's attention. Especially if you want retention. They can ask for a 1st until they're faces turn blue. We'll see if they get that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 minute ago, Miss Korea said: Monahan can certainly play the bumper and has performed decently on the Habs PP in that role. But we are essentially a 1-unit powerplay, and I'm sure Vancouver wants to see if they can ride Suter first. Yeah definitely a 1-unit PP. After his game the other day I agree he's gonna get the chance but I don't think he is the answer. I've seen enough in the previous games he played on the PP and the second line. Monahan has a better shot, bigger body and is grittier/nasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Way too much for Vatrano and not nearly enough for Monahan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 23 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Yeah definitely a 1-unit PP. After his game the other day I agree he's gonna get the chance but I don't think he is the answer. I've seen enough in the previous games he played on the PP and the second line. Monahan has a better shot, bigger body and is grittier/nasty. One of the best playmaking bumpers in the NHL is Brayden Point and he is pretty small, even smaller than Pius Suter if I'm not mistaken. So Point = Suter. Yup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: One of the best playmaking bumpers in the NHL is Brayden Point and he is pretty small, even smaller than Pius Suter if I'm not mistaken. So Point = Suter. Yup. = Edited January 27 by Gawdzukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 50 minutes ago, HKSR said: They can ask for a 1st until they're faces turn blue. We'll see if they get that. If they move him I guarantee they'll get a better return than what you suggested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 5 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: If they move him I guarantee they'll get a better return than what you suggested We'll see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 minute ago, HKSR said: We'll see... Explain to me how what you offered has any value compared to a C who's near the top of the league in faceoff percentage, is on a 50+ point pace, is defensively sound, can play up and down the lineup, and has a cap hit of under $2m? You think the best offer will be a couple future waiver wire victims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 Just now, qwijjibo said: Explain to me how what you offered has any value compared to a C who's near the top of the league in faceoff percentage, is on a 50+ point pace, is defensively sound, can play up and down the lineup, and has a cap hit of under $2m? You think the best offer will be a couple future waiver wire victims? Because teams always ask for more than what they get. We all thought Chychrun would get more than what he did considering the hype around him and he landed a 1st, a 2nd and a 2nd in 2026. A better comparable was Granlund last year. On pace for 50 points, plays up and down the lineup, defensively responsible... a measly 2nd round pick was the cost. Monahan is a rental and not every teams first choice. I think there was something about how Allvin and JR think of him as a 3C, so I'm sure other teams see it the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, HKSR said: They can ask for a 1st until they're faces turn blue. We'll see if they get that. Yup. Monnohands will get a third, including retention. He’s just not a guy who helps a team win. He looks decent on an embarrassingly bad Habs’ team. He’s just not going to help a team that is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Just now, HKSR said: Because teams always ask for more than what they get. We all thought Chychrun would get more than what he did considering the hype around him and he landed a 1st, a 2nd and a 2nd in 2026. A better comparable was Granlund last year. On pace for 50 points, plays up and down the lineup, defensively responsible... a measly 2nd round pick was the cost. Monahan is a rental and not every teams first choice. I think there was something about how Allvin and JR think of him as a 3C, so I'm sure other teams see it the same. A 2nd is a substantially better return than 2 crap stalled prospects that wouldn't be in Montreals top 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: A 2nd is a substantially better return than 2 crap stalled prospects that wouldn't be in Montreals top 20 I disagree. Johansson and McDonough still have solid value, especially Johansson. He's only 23yo and a RHD. He's no worse than a late 2nd round pick because that's what it would be if Monahan is traded to a contender. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 3 minutes ago, HKSR said: I disagree. Johansson and McDonough still have solid value, especially Johansson. He's only 23yo and a RHD. He's no worse than a late 2nd round pick because that's what it would be if Monahan is traded to a contender. Johansson is about to turn 24 and hasn't played a single nhl game. He's as close to bust territory as you can get. He's not remotely worth a late 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 3 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: Johansson is about to turn 24 and hasn't played a single nhl game. He's as close to bust territory as you can get. He's not remotely worth a late 2nd. McDonough is a bust too I guess? Classic case of undervaluing our guys and overvaluing other team's players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, HKSR said: McDonough is a bust too I guess? Classic case of undervaluing our guys and overvaluing other team's players. What has he done as a 24 year old to suggest he has any value to an NHL team? He's not even producing in the ahl. He's a filler player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 Just now, qwijjibo said: What has he done as a 24 year old to suggest he has any value to an NHL team? He's not even producing in the ahl. He's a filler player. You're over valuing Monahan. Granlund was a very similar case last year. Then 2 years ago Max Domi was also on a 50 point pace and he was packaged up with Tyler inamoto for Aiden Hreschuk. These middle 6 type forwards don't go for as much as you think they do when they're pending UFAs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 minute ago, HKSR said: You're over valuing Monahan. Granlund was a very similar case last year. Then 2 years ago Max Domi was also on a 50 point pace and he was packaged up with Tyler inamoto for Aiden Hreschuk. These middle 6 type forwards don't go for as much as you think they do when they're pending UFAs. Hockey insiders are suggesting he gets a 1st+ . Meanwhile you're trying to pawn off two failed prospects as value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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