Coconuts Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Seems they're reluctant to part with their 1st for once Walker may be too expensive for them too, gotta think he'd garner a 2nd and they don't have one https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2846118/report-leafs-inquired-about-walker-carrier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain insano Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 F the leafs lock it up no leaf talk here, go to twitter for that shit, that’s all you see how they are linked to 99% of the league 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionized27 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 18 minutes ago, Captain insano said: F the leafs lock it up no leaf talk here, go to twitter for that shit, that’s all you see how they are linked to 99% of the league Pump the brakes. I'm pretty sure this is a part of the forum which covers the league. Leafs hate or no, it's open for discussion here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: Seems they're reluctant to part with their 1st for once Walker may be too expensive for them too, gotta think he'd garner a 2nd and they don't have one https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2846118/report-leafs-inquired-about-walker-carrier A good lesson about "going all in". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: Seems they're reluctant to part with their 1st for once Walker may be too expensive for them too, gotta think he'd garner a 2nd and they don't have one https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2846118/report-leafs-inquired-about-walker-carrier What are they waiting for? Leafs are a 2 game losing streak from being out of the wildcard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 minutes ago, Bob Long said: What are they waiting for? Leafs are a 2 game losing streak from being out of the wildcard burning a 1st on a rental and then missing the playoffs is inexcusable. they have to make sure they have a chance in hell at a run if they're moving that asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHeart Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 The leafs are not even close to having the strength to make it anywhere in the playoffs. They shouldn’t trade any futures 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Off season is where they need to get together and trade two of their top players. That way they could get one younger player back to play right away and one that's a hard working checker.Plus a pic or two. Do that with two of their top 5 and they could get cap to actually have three scoring lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, cripplereh said: Off season is where they need to get together and trade two of their top players. That way they could get one younger player back to play right away and one that's a hard working checker.Plus a pic or two. Do that with two of their top 5 and they could get cap to actually have three scoring lines. Blaming that team's poor defence on the core is so unbelievably lazy at this point. The entire strategy of Toronto is to relentlessly push the pace of the game with an all-out-attack. O-zone pressure is structured around it. Neutral zone transitions are structured around it. D-zone coverage is structure around it. They use a box+1 D-zone coverage but lack the communication needed to properly handle opponent switches (ie. high scissor plays that Quinn Hughes loves to initiate), and get burned on it. That is a Sheldon Keefe problem. That is a Brad Treliving problem, who spent $16M in the summer on guys who've never played defence. Ridiculous blaming the top guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: Blaming that team's poor defence on the core is so unbelievably lazy at this point. The entire strategy of Toronto is to relentlessly push the pace of the game with an all-out-attack. O-zone pressure is structured around it. Neutral zone transitions are structured around it. D-zone coverage is structure around it. They use a box+1 D-zone coverage but lack the communication needed to properly handle opponent switches (ie. high scissor plays that Quinn Hughes loves to initiate), and get burned on it. That is a Sheldon Keefe problem. That is a Brad Treliving problem, who spent $16M in the summer on guys who've never played defence. Ridiculous blaming the top guys. i don't know if he was blaming the top players or more pointing towards the poor construction of the team. Edited February 16 by tas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeyman109 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Miss Korea said: Blaming that team's poor defence on the core is so unbelievably lazy at this point. The entire strategy of Toronto is to relentlessly push the pace of the game with an all-out-attack. O-zone pressure is structured around it. Neutral zone transitions are structured around it. D-zone coverage is structure around it. They use a box+1 D-zone coverage but lack the communication needed to properly handle opponent switches (ie. high scissor plays that Quinn Hughes loves to initiate), and get burned on it. That is a Sheldon Keefe problem. That is a Brad Treliving problem, who spent $16M in the summer on guys who've never played defence. Ridiculous blaming the top guys. So how do the Canucks do it? The Core is the problem there. its all about the relentless pursuit of Matthews scoring more goals than McDavid. Keep it up they might kmiss the dance altogether. Team Defense is exactly that. TEAM defense. The leafs dont have anyone committed to it thus the lack of success in the playoffs. The core four are the worst offenders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 9 hours ago, tas said: burning a 1st on a rental and then missing the playoffs is inexcusable. they have to make sure they have a chance in hell at a run if they're moving that asset. So give Willy all the money, etc. but protect that bottom half of the first round pick like your franchise depends on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopChed Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 8 hours ago, LaBamba said: The leafs are not even close to having the strength to make it anywhere in the playoffs. They shouldn’t trade any futures It's fun watching them be good in the regular season with all the hype around them just to stink it up in the playoffs year after year. Their tears are so sweet. But their going to the basement soon and going to stay there for a decade like we did. I will get no pleasure from watching that pity party. I want all of the Canadian teams to do well and be relevant. As long as we are the first to bring the cup home since I was a child building tinfoil statues on top of my TV so I could get a glimpse the game on broadcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 11 hours ago, Captain insano said: F the leafs lock it up no leaf talk here, go to twitter for that shit, that’s all you see how they are linked to 99% of the league Love the hate! Keep up the good work!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Go to TSN top of the page Leaf’s lose. Scroll down to essentially third page, Edmonton and Montreal Lose, keep scrolling down to 4th page, oh look the top team in the league won again but who cares. Fuck the Leafs, keep their rumours out of our board, we can’t avoid them as it is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 16 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Go to TSN top of the page Leaf’s lose. Scroll down to essentially third page, Edmonton and Montreal Lose, keep scrolling down to 4th page, oh look the top team in the league won again but who cares. Fuck the Leafs, keep their rumours out of our board, we can’t avoid them as it is. good, I'd rather we not be on the eastern media top story page because it probably means some bullshit rumour or piling on over something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old guy Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 10 hours ago, LaBamba said: The leafs are not even close to having the strength to make it anywhere in the playoffs. They shouldn’t trade any futures I think it would be a prudent move for them. Go For It! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 12 hours ago, Captain insano said: F the leafs lock it up no leaf talk here, go to twitter for that shit, that’s all you see how they are linked to 99% of the league I don't care, welcome to the trades, rumours, and signings section 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 11 hours ago, Bob Long said: What are they waiting for? Leafs are a 2 game losing streak from being out of the wildcard They def need help sooner than later 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: They def need help sooner than later yea the futures talk is kind of confusing to me, they are clearly all-in, its not like a 20+ draft pick in a so-so draft is going to be the thing that makes the difference. That player won't likely be ready until Matthews is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: yea the futures talk is kind of confusing to me, they are clearly all-in, its not like a 20+ draft pick in a so-so draft is going to be the thing that makes the difference. That player won't likely be ready until Matthews is gone. I still think there's a good chance they pony up, they may just look for someone they can retain this time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain insano Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 38 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I don't care, welcome to the trades, rumours, and signings section I was just kidding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 8 minutes ago, Captain insano said: I was just kidding For the record I also hate the Leafs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, Mikeyman109 said: So how do the Canucks do it? The Core is the problem there. its all about the relentless pursuit of Matthews scoring more goals than McDavid. Keep it up they might kmiss the dance altogether. Team Defense is exactly that. TEAM defense. The leafs dont have anyone committed to it thus the lack of success in the playoffs. The core four are the worst offenders You probably don't even know what type of forechecking/D-zone systems the Canucks and Leafs deploy. What is the Canucks' defensive formation under Tocchet? Box+1? Strong side overload What is their forecheck formation? Is it a 1-2-2, a 2-1-2, or a 1-3-1? Being able to identify team systems is the first step to understanding what works and what doesn't. The Canucks are a prime example of how you can take the exact same core and achieve much more using different defensive tactics. Why were we so bad last year and the year before? Apart from Horvat, the core was the exact same. And before you engage in generic sports platitudes, first identify the defensive systems coach Tocchet and Keefe are employing, and whether those tactics are being executed properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 5 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: You probably don't even know what type of forechecking/D-zone systems the Canucks and Leafs deploy. What is the Canucks' defensive formation under Tocchet? Box+1? Strong side overload What is their forecheck formation? Is it a 1-2-2, a 2-1-2, or a 1-3-1? Being able to identify team systems is the first step to understanding what works and what doesn't. The Canucks are a prime example of how you can take the exact same core and achieve much more using different defensive tactics. Why were we so bad last year and the year before? Apart from Horvat, the core was the exact same. And before you engage in generic sports platitudes, first identify the defensive systems coach Tocchet and Keefe are employing, and whether those tactics are being executed properly. Leafs are a shinny hockey team. Wouldn't matter what systems are applied, that core will only abide by it when they feel like it. They've shown it time and time again. They can score, yip, give them room and they can score. When they get to playoffs and ice tightens, up that core flounders. It's evident time and time again in the postseason. The other important parts of the game that involve sacrifice and are not fun to play eludes that core group. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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