Bob Long Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: The guys in government likely weighed the possible political blowback from this in their considerations. Last thing I think they'd want though is a situation where unclear jurisdiction or undefined mandate creates an inability for either police force to enforce the law. I wonder about that. They could lose a lot of votes over this. I'm sure the new-Libs will make a big deal of it. And you know the RCMP will screw something up they can use politically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bob Long said: I wonder about that. They could lose a lot of votes over this. I'm sure the new-Libs will make a big deal of it. And you know the RCMP will screw something up they can use politically. They could, but opposition is fractured at the moment, with the BC Conservatives slowly creeping into the conversation. I suspect they chose to do this now (and this is just my own speculation) because the next election isn't for a while yet, and the electorate tends to be forgetful about localized issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 B.C. Ferries planning for seven new hybrid ferries to replace retiring Queens https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/bc-ferries-planning-for-seven-new-hybrid-ferries-to-replace-retiring-queens-7866542 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Last I checked, if a person didn't like the terms of their employment contract, they could always give notice and go find another job. Are these drivers enslaved to their rideshare app or something? Why aren't they choosing to quit the platform (ie. exit the employment contract) and find something more suited to their preferences? Quote B.C. Uber workers call on province to cap the number of drivers on the road 'Right now, it's essentially a free for all,' says ride-share driver CBC News · Posted: Dec 07, 2023 12:41 PM PST | Last Updated: December 7 The Uber app is seen on an iPhone near a driver's vehicle after the company launched in Vancouver in January 2020. Some rideshare drivers are now pushing the province to cap the number of drivers on the road. (Darryl Dyck/The Canadian Press) 'Tis the season for holiday parties and high demand for rideshare drivers — and some workers behind the wheel are asking the province for help to improve job conditions. Last month, the B.C. government unveiled changes to bring better working conditions for app-based gig workers. The legislation addressed unpredictable wages, being cut off from a job without proper notice and the lack of compensation for workers injured on the job. On Tuesday, some gig workers met with B.C. Labour Minister Harry Bains, who proposed those legislation changes, to ask for further regulation from the government for rideshare and delivery drivers. "We are trying to have a regulation where there is a maximum amount of drivers that can be on the job," said driver Inder Raj Gill, who was at the meeting with the minister. "Right now, it's essentially a free-for-all," he added. While Gill did not specify what that cap would be, he said there's "only enough pie" to go around for so many drivers. Provincial estimates put the number of ride-hailing drivers in B.C. at about 11,000, along with 27,000 food-delivery workers. Drivers, says Gill, are also seeking better compensation than the province proposed in November. WATCH | Inder Raj Gill calls for cap on the number of rideshare and delivery drivers on B.C. roads: Uber drivers in B.C. say too many people are competing for fares — and want province to step in 2 days ago Duration2:48 Rideshare and delivery driver Inder Raj Gill tells Gloria Macarenko about the growing number of people getting into gig work, increasing competition and pressure among drivers. Gill, along with other gig workers, are calling on the province to consider putting a cap on the number of people working as app-based gig workers. The proposed amendments include a minimum earnings standard for engaged time at 120 per cent of minimum wage before tips — or $20.10 an hour at the current minimum wage of $16.75. The rate is higher because engaged time would not include the time spent waiting for the next ride or delivery. "The 120 per cent of engaged time is a very vague way of paying us," said Gill. He said drivers will only be paid that when they are on assignment, meanwhile they spend at least half of their shifts waiting to be assigned — one of the issues he raised with Bains this week. "We suggested that any worker should have a minimum utilization rate of 80 to 85 per cent. What that means is, if a worker is online on any platform, they should be working at least 80 per cent of the time when they are online," said Gill. Rideshare drivers that attended a Nov. 16 press conference where Bains announced new gig worker employment standards shared Gill's sentiments. "I don't make enough these days," driver Kuljeet Singh told CBC News. "You don't have overtime, you don't have vacations, you don't have benefits, you don't have dental — you don't have anything." Ride-hailing drivers Inder Raj Gill, left, and Kuljeet Singh are advocating for higher wages for gig economy workers in B.C. The duo are seen here on Nov. 16, 2023 attending a press conference where the province proposed amendments to the Employment Standards Act and the Workers Compensation Act. (Justine Boulin/CBC) Singh said a minimum standard of $30-$35 an hour would be more appropriate. Other labour issues that have not been addressed in B.C.'s plan include overtime, holidays and paid leave. But Gill believes November's announcement was just a starting point and is optimistic following his recent meeting with Bains, calling the talks productive. The proposed legislation also includes measures prohibiting companies from withholding tips, requiring transparency about how much each gig will earn, creating an official review process when workers are let go and providing coverage under WorkSafeBC. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-uber-drivers-requesting-regulation-1.7052257 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 minute ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Last I checked, if a person didn't like the terms of their employment contract, they could always give notice and go find another job. Are these drivers enslaved to their rideshare app or something? Why aren't they choosing to quit the platform (ie. exit the employment contract) and find something more suited to their preferences? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-uber-drivers-requesting-regulation-1.7052257 I think it's a requirement to be a shitty driver to be able to have that little Uber sign in your car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 11:14 AM, The Arrogant Worms said: B.C. Ferries planning for seven new hybrid ferries to replace retiring Queens https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/bc-ferries-planning-for-seven-new-hybrid-ferries-to-replace-retiring-queens-7866542 NDP and ferries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob Long said: NDP and ferries. Yup… pretty much means expecting more delays and a ton of wasted money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Ronaldoescobar said: Yup… pretty much means expecting more delays and a ton of wasted money. its just funny that they'd give it another try. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 39 minutes ago, Ronaldoescobar said: Yup… pretty much means expecting more delays and a ton of wasted money. 37 minutes ago, Bob Long said: its just funny that they'd give it another try. What's the alternative though? Letting the ferry system decompose due to lack of available ships? They need to replace them at some point. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: What's the alternative though? Letting the ferry system decompose due to lack of available ships? They need to replace them at some point. Apparently that's what some people want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: What's the alternative though? Letting the ferry system decompose due to lack of available ships? They need to replace them at some point. BC ferries is a gong show and the NDP don't have a good history with this. It's going to be a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bob Long said: BC ferries is a gong show and the NDP don't have a good history with this. It's going to be a disaster. So no alternative then. Let them Island bastards starve, eh? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Make BC Ferris A Crown Corp Again! MBFACCA! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: So no alternative then. Let them Island bastards starve, eh? Bunch of redneck hippies. No you @bishopshodan, that @luckylager guy. /s 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Bunch of redneck hippies. No you @bishopshodan, that @luckylager guy. /s Real talk though - Islanders, and our communities, should all be looking for local investment opportunities that can make Island living more sustainable, and less dependent on products (primarily food) from the mainland. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 minute ago, luckylager said: Real talk though - Islanders, and our communities, should all be looking for local investment opportunities that can make Island living more sustainable, and less dependent on products (primarily food) from the mainland. The same can be said for mainland localities vis a vis international imports (especially food). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 minute ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: The same can be said for mainland localities vis a vis international imports (especially food). Absolutely. We have a lot of ALR that is basically unused / misused. Perhaps a provincial investment into heated greenhouses that are powered by green energy? Just spitballing progressive solutions that shouldve been taken more seriously like 30 years ago. Yeah. Unfortunately, the powers that be do not represent the best interests of the people, and have always put the the best interests of the all might dollar first and foremost. Shocker eh. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 See this is why I don't come into off topic. Thanks Jimmy, please leave me to my little bubble so I don't actually have to be shitty and bitter. Salute, politicos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: What's the alternative though? Letting the ferry system decompose due to lack of available ships? They need to replace them at some point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, luckylager said: Absolutely. We have a lot of ALR that is basically unused / misused. Perhaps a provincial investment into heated greenhouses that are powered by green energy? Just spitballing progressive solutions that shouldve been taken more seriously like 30 years ago. Yeah. Unfortunately, the powers that be do not represent the best interests of the people, and have always put the the best interests of the all might dollar first and foremost. Shocker eh. I'm all for enforcement of usage of ALR land as it was meant to be (instead of having developers hawking over and drooling about these slabs of fertile agricultural land into irreversibly lost dead paved-over land that get turned into housing cash cows). Back on the old forum (where pretty much all my posts have now been deleted), I'd been strongly in favour of using ALR land as it was intended, and firmly against having ALR land taken out and converted to condos (or worse, villas for the rich). If the NDP wants to salvage part of their historical victories, that's one area they need to focus on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Shift-4 said: Do you think @Bob Long can swim that distance with these? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 55 minutes ago, luckylager said: Real talk though - Islanders, and our communities, should all be looking for local investment opportunities that can make Island living more sustainable, and less dependent on products (primarily food) from the mainland. Or a bridge No that would destroy whats special about island. Agreed tho, more investment is a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 40 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Do you think @Bob Long can swim that distance with these? Nah I'll just pay you to haul me in a dinghy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Although I've been critical of the NDP many times over the years (and certainly after the Fast Ferries debacle) I have to point out that expecting the current NDP government to fail, just because the Glen Clark government shit the bed 25 years ago, it's not much different than expecting a late season collapse by the Canucks, just because the 2006 team did.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Nah I'll just pay you to haul me in a dinghy. You'll have to buy the dinghy first, and I don't think you can afford to pay me enough to haul you across the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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