BlueJays Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) I feel like this must have been posted already but can’t find it. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/nhl-salary-cap-estimated-to-increase-by-4m-for-2024-25-season/ an extra 4.2M certainly wouldn’t hurt getting Hronek and Petey done. Especially if they can shed Garland. Edited December 5, 2023 by BlueJays Spelling 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophomore Jinx Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 If only just we received it, and no one else haha. Cap management will be more essential than ever, but I trust the baldies 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 This is good news for some of our pending FA’s. If Zadorov proves to be valuable, maybe we can keep him as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I mean, it helps the value of our existing contracts. It's not going to help us stay under the cap with our upcoming free agents. Obviously Pettersson and Hronek will want a little bit more now that they know the cap is going up by that much. But it makes Hughes and Miller dirt cheap, and lessens the deadweight of the OEL contract. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I'd say we can easily fit everyone in, the question is, who do we keep. Myers and Cole are big question marks - they're obviously quite old, do we keep them on a cheap 1-2 year deal or just look into free agency? They play big minutes for us. Obviously Zadorov has to be re-signed around 4ish mil hopefully. Hronek is one of the best defencemen in the league, there was talk of 6M in the off-season but he deserves 7M now (it helps having Hughes at 7.8M - surely no one on that blueline can earn more than him). Then the other question is what about our bottom-6, we've got a chance to keep our current guys who have done well (Lafferty, Blueger, Joshua) or do we let them go if they ask for too much if they pad their stats a bit more and let kids come in to play bigger minutes (is Raty ready?), or get a solid 3C in UFA? I think we'll easily be able to re-sign Petey and Hronek to big deals but the question is, what do we do with our depth - keep our current guys or look elsewhere? All depends on how the rest of the season and playoffs unfold I'd say. Defence is the main spot where we might see lots of turn around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Seems to me we barely we have enough cap to re-sign everyone. Pettersson at around 11.5mil, Hronek at 7mil, minor raises to Lafferty, Joshua, Desmith, may be Zadarov. Minus 6mil from Myers. That's barely within the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Miss Korea said: I mean, it helps the value of our existing contracts. It's not going to help us stay under the cap with our upcoming free agents. Obviously Pettersson and Hronek will want a little bit more now that they know the cap is going up by that much. But it makes Hughes and Miller dirt cheap, and lessens the deadweight of the OEL contract. Exactly ........ the cap going up means nothing other than players, especially top end players, are going to get more $. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) Ok spreadsheet time... Notes: - Gave benefit of the doubt to EP40 that his game will take off again in the 2nd half and he becomes the 5th highest paid player in the entire NHL - Hronek also becomes one of the highest paid (top 15) defencemen in the entire NHL - Zadorov gets a raise - Garland is still traded. We need the cap space to solidify our 2nd pair on defence - Cole is not re-signed. Instead we sign or trade for a solid 2nd pairing RHD as stop gap solution as we await Willander - Myers or equivalent is re-signed for 3rd pairing duties - Podkolzin and Karlsson get their shot, and Hoglander finally moves into a top 6 role - In 2 years, we have cap leftover to re-sign Hogs to top 6 dollars Mikheyev-Petey-Kuzmenko Hoglander-Miller-Boeser Joshua-Suter-Karlsson Podkolzin-Blueger-Lafferty Aman Hughes-Hronek Zadorov-Top4RHD Soucy-Myers Juulsen TLDR: We're in good shape assuming we trade Garland between now and the start of next season. That includes a significant Petey and Hronek raise. Edited December 5, 2023 by HKSR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 11 hours ago, Miss Korea said: I mean, it helps the value of our existing contracts. It's not going to help us stay under the cap with our upcoming free agents. Obviously Pettersson and Hronek will want a little bit more now that they know the cap is going up by that much. But it makes Hughes and Miller dirt cheap, and lessens the deadweight of the OEL contract. Yup, a rising cap doesn't necessarily mean the Canucks will have more cap space to fit other players in, more than likely it just means the players they need to extend will be asking for more. Player asks rise alongside the cap, so do their contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Yup, a rising cap doesn't necessarily mean the Canucks will have more cap space to fit other players in, more than likely it just means the players they need to extend will be asking for more. Player asks rise alongside the cap, so do their contracts. Given how sports and society works, it will just mean the higher end players get more the middle class will continue to shrink. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Just now, DrJockitch said: Given how sports and society works, it will just mean the higher end players get more the middle class will continue to shrink. Absolutely, top end players always eat up larger chunks of cap increases. If anything this will bolster what Pettersson and Hronek can ask for. It's not the job of players to manage the cap of the teams they play for, it's the job of their agents to secure them the largest bag possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAA Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) https://canucksarmy.com/news/analyzing-nikita-zadorovs-potential-as-a-top-four-defender-the-vancouver-canucks "The recently-promised increase to the NHL’s salary cap that just might make the most positive impact on the franchise long-term, because it couldn’t be coming at a better time for the Canucks. At this week’s Board of Governors meetings, the NHL announced an estimated salary cap increase for the 2024/25 season, moving from the current $83.5 million up to $87.675. That’s a difference of $4.175 million, which might not sound like a lot, but is for a couple of different reasons...” Good article, it's going to be tight for the Canucks but not impossible. Especially if players like Bains can make the jump on cheap ELCs. Edited December 5, 2023 by AAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 21 hours ago, HKSR said: Ok spreadsheet time... Notes: - Gave benefit of the doubt to EP40 that his game will take off again in the 2nd half and he becomes the 5th highest paid player in the entire NHL - Hronek also becomes one of the highest paid (top 15) defencemen in the entire NHL - Zadorov gets a raise - Garland is still traded. We need the cap space to solidify our 2nd pair on defence - Cole is not re-signed. Instead we sign or trade for a solid 2nd pairing RHD as stop gap solution as we await Willander - Myers or equivalent is re-signed for 3rd pairing duties - Podkolzin and Karlsson get their shot, and Hoglander finally moves into a top 6 role - In 2 years, we have cap leftover to re-sign Hogs to top 6 dollars Mikheyev-Petey-Kuzmenko Hoglander-Miller-Boeser Joshua-Suter-Karlsson Podkolzin-Blueger-Lafferty Aman Hughes-Hronek Zadorov-Top4RHD Soucy-Myers Juulsen TLDR: We're in good shape assuming we trade Garland between now and the start of next season. That includes a significant Petey and Hronek raise. I think if Lafferty keeps up his current play he'll be due a raise, say 1.5-2M. Think we should be able to get Zadorov down to 4M if he keeps up this 18 minute a night play. Think Hronek cannot possibly go over Hughes just out of principle so maybe we get him at 7.5M even though he's surely worth 8. Blueger should be similar, hasn't blown anyone out of the park, and Petey is in a bit of a quiet stretch so maybe his number comes down? I think you're right though, he probably ends up landing on 11.5M. Defence is key - our 2RD should be around 4-5M. Doubt it's Cole though, maybe someone in free agency but all those guys are monsters who will get far more. 3RD I think we can get down to 2-3M, whether it be Cole or Myers. I'd be quite happy with Cole at 2M for our 3rd pairing with Soucy, let Myers walk but then we need a solid 2RD to play with Zadorov (who is basically a 4-5th overall guy). Trading Garland will be difficult for sure and rotating the defence won't be easy but Allvin has shown he's got some balls to make big moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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