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[GDT] Vancouver Canucks @ Chicago Blackhawks, Dec 17 at 12PM PST (3PM EST), United Center, the Let's Get the Winning Ways Back on Track Game

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Canucks have 8 UFAs and 2 RFA's (notable) and Which Team is Better  

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  1. 1. Who won't be with the Canucks next year even if they win the Stanley Cup this year (multiple selections allowed). Comments are just my thoughts, pick player and add your own in comments below.

    • Sam Lafferty - yes great add, but that is the rub, will cost too much to resign plus Podz could fill his role and earn a nice contract the following year
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    • Ian Cole - solid pickup, but too old now which is why was signed for only 1 year, that and McWard or Pettersson could possbily step up.
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    • Mark Friedman - another solid pickup but young-uns in Abby can fill his spot
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    • Tylers Myers - unless he signs for $1.5M or less. Myer's cap hit will be used to give Big Zeke, Honker and perhaps Petey raises
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    • Elias Pettersson - he will want north of $11M per year and Canucks will get a bushel full of picks / prospects / players for him instead as that is too rich for Canucks now
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    • ... stop it with the Smoked Whiskey dear author, Petey stays ... see my comments below for my thoughts.
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  2. 2. Is This Year's Team Better than the 2011 Team that went to the SCF BABY!!

    • Fuck Ya and suck it CanuckFanF ... ahh, ahem
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    • No, the 2011 team was deeper, faster and gosh darn it, everyone loved that team - even the TO Fans
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    • Ask me at the 60 game mark, if team maintains this torrid pace then yes
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    • No, we are a Kesler and a Bieksa away from truly entering into that level of stratosphere
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    • Yes, but only if we jettison Myers, use the cap space to get a Selke caliber forward and one of the young guns in Abby steps up as the next Bobby (well better than Myers at least)
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    • ... come on, are you serious ... see my comment below
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1 hour ago, I.AM.THE.WALRUS said:

I got a bad feeling about this…

I think there’re gonna lose

I hope I’m wrong

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It's another early game on a back to back, and the latest generational talent is playing against his home town team... what could go wrong?

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14 hours ago, CanuckFanForever said:

Sorry I'm not breaking any rules, It is just my opinion and I don't do it in any aggressive way 

Your right,your not being aggressive. I find your posts entertaining. 

Your posts don't bother me in the least.

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Should be a pretty easy win. It's Chicago and they suck. One player doesn't make a team. Ask Edmonton. 

 

Not everyone has to love Tocchet, but if someone is demanding his firing, at least come up with a better coach to replace him with. Otherwise it's just a tantrum and whining.  Just stop, you're wrong. 

 

 

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Should be a pretty easy win. It's Chicago and they suck. One player doesn't make a team. Ask Edmonton. 

 

There really aren't any more easy wins in the NHL. Even SJ has 9 wins now.

 

Just now, Nucker67 said:

Not everyone has to love Tocchet, but if someone is demanding his firing, at least come up with a better coach to replace him with. Otherwise it's just a tantrum and whining.  Just stop, you're wrong. 

 

 

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Bruce is his grandfather 

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The 2011 team was clearly better for the kind of hockey that was being played in 2011. If we used the 2023 team in 2011, it would lose. But the same can be said vise versa. 

 

Granted some older and slow teams can win now too so maybe the 2011 team could compete now 

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15 hours ago, CanuckFanForever said:

Sorry I'm not breaking any rules, It is just my opinion and I don't do it in any aggressive way 

 

Post the way you want, it's your experience, not theirs.  They can put you on ignore if it bothers them.

 

There's not a lot of objectivity here and a lot of people shouting other people down when you do try to be objective.  It's moderately humourous watching them loose their shit on people with different opinions.

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Post the way you want, it's your experience, not theirs.  They can put you on ignore if it bothers them.

 

There's not a lot of objectivity here and a lot of people shouting other people down when you do try to be objective.  It's moderately humourous watching them loose their shit on people with different opinions.

 

Why would you expect objectivity on "Canucks fan" forum? 

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12 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

Ok. You seem to have an issue for a perceived lack of it on here.

 

If someone is shouting for Tocc to be fired now, they are probably just trolling.

 

I don't think so, he's been pretty consistent with his messages, you just don't like them.  Not everyone who disagrees with you is trolling

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14 minutes ago, Rip The Mesh said:

So I've been told...🤠

 

 

Tiny catching gloves, tiny pads, tiny blockers, tiny shoulder pads and Pygmy goal tenders.

The Hammer was one of the biggest players at 6'3", the overall team was bigger than the league average for the time.

By EP's age most had already had a few playoffs games 

 

Clutching and grabbing was the norm, hence the term, fighting through a check. Hardly any high sticks ever. Very very few cheap shots. The stars had room.

 

And most went to the Mountain Shadow for a few cool ones after, later Delaney's on Kingsway. 

 

I hate some polls, they do your thinking for you with limited choices or how they are worded, all polls especially the political ones.

 

No this team isn't as good as the 2011, the league was different.

For that time period though that team was the best in the league at just about every thing.

 

The same with the 94 team, a different league. Messier would have been suspended for what he did to Linden, a couple of goals would have been allowed and/or disallowed. I still remember, puck in glove, glove hit camera in net but no goal because they couldn't see the puck, the glove was all the way behind the line. Showed the replay once and not again. Lidster shoots. MacLean holds the puck in his glove, against his body and Lidster drives into MacL jarring the puck loose and into the net, counts. Linden is hooked and swings around, his skate blade enter the crease by about a centimeter no where near the goalie, disallowed. Gregson watches Beukeboom elbow Bure in the head 90 feet away from the play, Bure staggers back to the bench and Gregson ignores the hit but he does call Babych for tripping when Larmer toe picks 20 feet away and Diduck for boarding at the face off dot. Oh ya, Gregson got promoted to a league position soon after. Does it still reverberate?

Yes

And then it happened again in 2011

 

Today's game?

 

Canucks should win even if the tired team but Canuck luck will be they get embarrassed.

Some of the Canucks look like they may be getting or are sick. Flu bug.

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26 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

Ok. You seem to have an issue for a perceived lack of it on here.

 

If someone is shouting for Tocc to be fired now, they are probably just trolling.

 

And I don't have a problem with homers at all, everyone is free to have their own opinions, regardless of what I think of it.

 

I don't shout people down who I don't agree with........debate, yes.  Shout down and insult, no.

 

I leave that for the homers

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15 hours ago, CanuckFanForever said:

Fire Tocchet 

 

Losing to Minny like that was pathetic, one of the worst PKs and can't score a PP goal

 

But seriously Lose to Chi and I will mean it Fire Tocchet

Are you serious?  I’m one of the top trolls here (old forum) even I wouldn’t ever say that!!!  wtf is wrong with you?

 

The entire coaching staff is going an incredible job!!

 

 

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15 hours ago, Rip The Mesh said:

 

ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE!!!!!!

THAT SHOULD NEVER EVER, EVER HAPPEN AGAIN!

 

YOU CAN SEE HOW THE FANS HATED IT, RIGHT? STANDING THERE SCREAMING FOR IT TO STOP.

THOSE CANUCKS WERE JUST THUGS, THEY SHOULD HAVE LET LUONGO TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF.

THEY ALL SHOULD HAVE TURNED THE OTHER CHEEK, RIGHT?

BEASTS, GOONS, NOT ENTERTAINING EITHER!!!!!!!

 

THERE IS NO PLACE IN THE GAME FOR THAT!!!!!!!!

 

AND THEY SHOULD GET RID OF THAT HARD PUCK AND USE A RING INSTEAD!!

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39 minutes ago, stawns said:

 

Post the way you want, it's your experience, not theirs.  They can put you on ignore if it bothers them.

 

There's not a lot of objectivity here and a lot of people shouting other people down when you do try to be objective.  It's moderately humourous watching them loose their shit on people with different opinions.

"Fan" is just short for "Fanatic" so yeah.

 

And it hardly like the person's username is "Laffsfanforever".🥸

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17 minutes ago, stawns said:

 

And I don't have a problem with homers at all, everyone is free to have their own opinions, regardless of what I think of it.

 

I don't shout people down who I don't agree with........debate, yes.  Shout down and insult, no.

 

I leave that for the homers

Sorry but..

 

 

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21 minutes ago, stawns said:

 

And I don't have a problem with homers at all, everyone is free to have their own opinions, regardless of what I think of it.

 

I don't shout people down who I don't agree with........debate, yes.  Shout down and insult, no.

 

I leave that for the homers

 

Yea god forbid people get excited about their team on a fan forum 

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A Random Hockey Story ... well the word "hockey" is in the story at least ... laughed my balls off reading this one

The Diary Of A Snow Shoveler

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December 8 - 6:00 PM

It started to snow. The first snow of the season and the wife and I took our cocktails and sat for hours by the window watching the huge soft flakes drift down from heaven. It looked like a Grandma Moses Print. So romantic we felt like newlyweds again. I love snow!

 

December 9

We woke to a beautiful blanket of crystal white snow covering every inch of the landscape. What a fantastic sight! Can there be a lovelier place in the whole world? Moving here was the best idea I've ever had! Shoveled for the first time in years and felt like a boy again. I did both our driveway and the sidewalks. This afternoon the snowplow came along and covered up the sidewalks and closed in the driveway, so I got to shovel again. What a perfect life!

 

December 12

The sun has melted all our lovely snow. Such a disappointment! My neighbor tells me not to worry- we'll definitely have a white Christmas. No snow on Christmas would be awful! John says we'll have so much snow by the end of winter, that I'll never want to see snow again I don't think that's possible. John is such a nice man, I'm glad he's our neighbor.

 

December 14

Snow, lovely snow! 8 inches last night. The temperature dropped to -20. The cold makes everything sparkle so. The wind took my breath away, but I warmed up by shoveling the driveway and sidewalks. This is the life! The snowplow came back this afternoon and buried everything again. I didn't realize I would have to do quite this much shoveling, but I'll certainly get back in shape this way. I wish l wouldn't huff and puff so.

 

December 15

20 inches forecast. Sold my van and bought a 4x4 Blazer. Bought snow tires for the wife's car and 2 extra shovels. Stocked the freezer. The wife wants a wood stove in case the electricity goes out. I think that's silly. We aren't in Alaska, after all.

 

December 16

Ice storm this morning. Fell on my ass on the ice in the driveway putting down salt. Hurt like hell. The wife laughed for an hour, which I think was very cruel.

 

December 17

Still way below freezing. Roads are too icy to go anywhere. Electricity was off for 5 hours. I had to pile the blankets on to stay warm. Nothing to do but stare at the wife and try not to irritate her. Guess I should've bought a wood stove, but won't admit it to her. God I hate it when she's right. I can't believe I'm freezing to death in my own living room.

 

December 20

Electricity's back on, but had another 14 inches of the damn stuff last night. More shoveling! Took all day. The damn snowplow came by twice. Tried to find a neighbor kid to shovel, but they said they're too busy playing hockey. I think they're lying. Called the only hardware store around to see about buying a snow blower and they're out. Might have another shipment in March. I think they're lying. John says I have to shovel or the city will have it done and bill me. I think he's lying.

 

December 22

John was right about a white Christmas because 13 more inches of the white shit fell today, and it's so cold, it probably won't melt till August. Took me 45 minutes to get all dressed up to go out to shovel and then I had to go pee. By the time I got undressed, went to the bathroom and dressed again, I was too tired to shovel. Tried to hire John who has a plow on his truck for the rest of the winter, but he says he's too busy. I think the asshole is lying.

 

December 23

Only 2 inches of snow today. And it warmed up to 0. The wife wanted me to decorate the front of the house this morning. What is she, nuts?!!  Why didn't she tell me to do that a month ago? She says she did but I think she's lying.

 

December 24

6 inches - Snow packed so hard by snowplow, l broke the shovel. Thought I was having a heart attack. If I ever catch the son of a bitch who drives that snow plow, I'll drag him through the snow and beat him to death with my broken shovel. I know he hides around the corner and waits for me to finish shoveling and then he comes down the street at a 100 miles an hour and throws snow all over where I've just been! Tonight the wife wanted me to sing Christmas carols with her and open our presents, but I was too busy watching for the damn snowplow.

 

December 25

Merry freaking Christmas! 20 more inches of the damn slop tonight -Snowed in. The idea of shoveling makes my blood boil. God, I hate the snow! Then the snowplow driver came by asking for a donation and I hit him over the head with my shovel. The wife says I have a bad attitude. I think she's an idiot. If I have to watch "It's A Wonderful Life" one more time, I'm going to stuff her into the microwave.

 

December 26

Still snowed in. Why the hell did I ever move here? It was all HER idea. She's really getting on my nerves.

 

December 27

Temperature dropped to -30 and the pipes froze; plumber came after 14 hours of waiting for him, he only charged me $1,400 to replace all my pipes.

 

December 28

Warmed up to above -20. Still snowed in. My wife is driving me crazy!!!

 

December 29

10 more inches. John says I have to shovel the roof or it could cave in. That's the silliest thing I ever heard. How dumb does he think I am?

 

December 30

Roof caved in. I beat up the snow plow driver, and now he is suing me for a million dollars for trying to shove the broken snow shovel up his ass. The wife went home to her mother. Nine more inches predicted.

 

December 31

I set fire to what's left of the house. No more shoveling.

 

January 8

Feel so good. I just love those little white pills they keep giving me. Why am I tied to the bed?

 

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---- Now for the Game Day Thread ----

 

Overview

Well, the Canucks are coming off of a lack-lustre performance, at least from the point of view of most Canucks fans, in gaining a loser point against the ever thrilling Minnesota Wild. The Canucks offense has been red-hot all season, more or less, but dried up for this game. Goaltending bailed out the Canucks this game and that has been a fantastic bright spot for the Canucks this season. DeSmith gives the coach the option of throwing him in virtually any game without a second thought.

 

While DeSmith gave the Canucks a chance all game to win it, the Canucks powerplay fizzled going 0 for 5 on the night. Oh well, onto Chicago.

 

The Blackhawks are without three of their minute munching defensemen at practice Saturday and two for sure won't be available for Sunday. But who are we kidding, this game is all about Connor Bedard and how he is playing up to expectations - well that and the Canucks better win this upcoming game, noon PST start be damned. Seth Jones on IR, Vlasic sidelined with upper-body injury and Korchinski is away on personal leave.

 

Quote of the day:

“We’re still trying to establish our identity. We’re chipping away at it and trying to be a hard team to play against, being smart in our own end. We’re still learning. There’s still some times when we’re giving the puck away when we shouldn’t, but I think that’s part of the maturation to get to the next level.” Rick Tocchet after the 4-0 beatdown of the Panthers.

 

By the Numbers

Vancouver Canucks vs. Chicago Blackhawks Odds and Betting Lines

Favorite: Canucks (-203)

Underdog: Blackhawks (+165)

Over/under: 6

 

  • In 15 games as the moneyline favorite this season, Vancouver has won 11 of those games.
  • In four games with moneyline oddds shorter than -203, the Canucks have three wins.
  • The moneyline odds imply that Vancouver has a 67.0% chance of winning this game.
  • Vancouver and its opponent have gone over the current 6-goal total in 20 of 31 games this season.
  • In their past 10 matchups, the Canucks are 6-3-1 to earn 75.0% of the possible points.
  • They have averaged 3.1 goals per game (31 total) over that time.
  • On the defensive end, the Canucks have allowed 23 goals (2.3 per game) over those 10 matchups.

 

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Media

You know the drill, GO BUY A TICKET AND throw random objects at the opposing team - just kidding, no violence please, just your best one-liners hurled at the Blackhawk bench, and the zebras as needed. Otherwise go to your local watering hole and support your team and swill some beer.

 

TV: Sportnet Pacific, TVA Sports, NBC Sports Chicago

Radio: SportsNet 650

Streaming: lots on various Reddit threads 

 

Matchup Info

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Da Roster

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Da Zebras

 

Now for some fun stuff

SLAY THE DRAGON!! Lots of GREAT SAVE LUONGO's

 

Canucks Blackhawks Brawl 1979

 

Canucks Blackhawks Broohaha 2009

 

Was laughing at the snow story, lol. Now hopefully this isn't a snoozefest like yesterday's game

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8 minutes ago, TheGuardian said:

ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE!!!!!!

THAT SHOULD NEVER EVER, EVER HAPPEN AGAIN!

 

YOU CAN SEE HOW THE FANS HATED IT, RIGHT? STANDING THERE SCREAMING FOR IT TO STOP.

THOSE CANUCKS WERE JUST THUGS, THEY SHOULD HAVE LET LUONGO TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF.

THEY ALL SHOULD HAVE TURNED THE OTHER CHEEK, RIGHT?

BEASTS, GOONS, NOT ENTERTAINING EITHER!!!!!!!

 

THERE IS NO PLACE IN THE GAME FOR THAT!!!!!!!!

 

AND THEY SHOULD GET RID OF THAT HARD PUCK AND USE A RING INSTEAD!!

See that blond 2/3 of the way through? She thought it was great,,

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49 minutes ago, stawns said:

 

Post the way you want, it's your experience, not theirs.  They can put you on ignore if it bothers them.

 

There's not a lot of objectivity here and a lot of people shouting other people down when you do try to be objective.  It's moderately humourous watching them loose their shit on people with different opinions.

Well, that’s a very subjective view….

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