RWJC Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 "With Klingberg’s struggles currently a hot topic in Toronto, some focus has been devoted to GM Brad Treliving’s offseason search for defensive help, and particularly what other options may have been available to Toronto. According to Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman, the player Toronto “really wanted” on July 1st of last season was Matt Dumba, who eventually signed with the Arizona Coyotes. Friedman reports that Dumba’s camp was looking for a contract within the $5MM AAV mark, which is higher than what Toronto committed to Klingberg. With Klingberg struggling and Dumba playing nearly 21 minutes per night in Arizona (and leading the team in ice time on the penalty kill) one wonders if Toronto could re-engage their pursuit of Dumba, this time via a trade, should the Coyotes fall out of the playoff race." https://www.prohockeyrumors.com 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHLer Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Hate to say it but Treliving is a joke and Dubas was actually half decent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bob Long Posted November 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2023 Treliving is lost without Benning. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, NHLer said: Hate to say it but Treliving is a joke and Dubas was actually half decent. More like Dumb and Dumber. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Not really much of an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHLer Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 *Dumb and less dumb probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, NHLer said: Hate to say it but Treliving is a joke and Dubas was actually half decent. Dubas isn't really much better at all. Treviling, to his credit, built a Flames team that had a solid defense and goaltending. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando27 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 I don't get how Toronto saw what happened with Calgary and decided that Trevliving was a good idea. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, NHLer said: Hate to say it but Treliving is a joke and Dubas was actually half decent. Neither have any business working in hockey ops. Both are unqualified idiots. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) Didn't Klingberg turn down a 7 x 7 deal from Dallas a few years back. Yikes. Edited November 9, 2023 by Rekker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Coconuts said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Who were they after when they settled for Reaves? McSorely? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goose Posted November 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2023 lmao @ the morons who kept pushing for VAN to get Klingberg. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHLer Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Coconuts said: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) Would you do Klingberg for Beau straight up? Exact same cap and term on contract one is stuck playing a 4th line role while the other is a RD and Swede but cant play D. Edited November 9, 2023 by Bure_Pavel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 So, Klingberg is a horrendously bad decision, and I think EVERYONE on this board knew it at the time... 4.15 million for him is a joke, he should be around 2.5 million considering his defensive liabilities. Reaves? 10 years ago, great deal. Now? 1.35 million for 3 years is laughable, and it's an anchor for them. Because it's a multi-year, 35+ contract, I don't believe that they are allowed to bury the cap hit in the AHL, even if they waive him and demote him. I believe that they will still have the full cap hit on the main team books, even if he can't play anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: Would you do Klingberg for Beau straight up? Exact same cap and term on contract one is stuck playing a 4th line role while the other is a RD and Swede but cant play D. No, I would want the Leaf's to at least retain him down to about 2.5 million and even then we have better options. There's a reason why Dallas didn't fight to keep him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, VegasCanuck said: No, I would want the Leaf's to at least retain him down to about 2.5 million and even then we have better options. There's a reason why Dallas didn't fight to keep him. Yeah if Bear was willing to sign here, would be a better option even if it meant we get less in a Beau trade. Klingberg almost made out like a bandit in FA, but him/his agent dropped the ball big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, Shift-4 said: Who were they after when they settled for Reaves? McSorely? Brashear is still playing and looks better than Reaves. Can probably still take him in a fight... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, Bure_Pavel said: Yeah if Bear was willing to sign here, would be a better option even if it meant we get less in a Beau trade. Klingberg almost made out like a bandit in FA, but him/his agent dropped the ball big time. I did a post in the Beauvillier trade speculation thread about trying to just move Beauvillier out for a pick with 1 million retained, sign Bear, send Juulsen to Abbotsford etc. Net result would be about 2.4 million increase in cap space if we could get Bear for 1 year at 1.5 million and then evaluate signing him again for next season as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Brashear is still playing and looks better than Reaves. Can probably still take him in a fight... They can't even get rid of Reaves cap hit by sending him to the AHL. Because it's a multi-year 35+, it stays with the main team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: Would you do Klingberg for Beau straight up? Exact same cap and term on contract one is stuck playing a 4th line role while the other is a RD and Swede but cant play D. No. Klingberg would struggle to crack the Abbotsford lineup. He's worse than useless and simply doesn't belong in the NHL. Beau is overpaid, but he doesn't hurt you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 38 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Jesus. That's an awfully close resemblance to the defense we trotted out for a couple of years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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