VegasCanuck Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) Personally, I'm not sure what I find more interesting. The idea of what this rocket could do for space exploration, or the INCREDIBLE fireworks it creates when it explodes. They have greenlight to try for a 2nd launch, thought I'd make a thread for anyone interested! They are going to try on Friday, I'm sure that it will be livestreamed on Space.com https://www.space.com/spacex-faa-license-second-starship-launch Who can forget their last attempt: And....some video of their earlier tests / explosions Edited November 16, 2023 by VegasCanuck 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 imo space is uninteresting. i don't understand the obsession some people have with it. it's just rocks, gas and empty space. i guess terraforming mars is an interesting idea because it's within the realms of possibility, but people who think we're ever going to leave the solar system will be disappointed when it hasn't happened by the year 10,000. don't get me wrong: space travel has benefits on earth in the sense that lots of technologies were born out of it, but anyone who thinks we're ever going to be able to travel to distant planets and discover alien life is going to be left disappointed. i remain unmoved by spacex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Just now, 112 said: imo space is uninteresting. i don't understand the obsession some people have with it. it's just rocks, gas and empty space. its much more than that. Its where we'll find the answers to some big questions, like will the universe end. Just now, 112 said: i guess terraforming mars is an interesting idea because it's within the realms of possibility, but people who think we're ever going to leave the solar system will be disappointed when it hasn't happened by the year 10,000. don't get me wrong: space travel has benefits on earth in the sense that lots of technologies were born out of it, but anyone who thinks we're ever going to be able to travel to distant planets and discover alien life is going to be left disappointed. i remain unmoved by spacex. Elon is a dink, but I like that he's pushing frontiers. Brings out the best in us, imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: its much more than that. Its where we'll find the answers to some big questions, like will the universe end. Elon is a dink, but I like that he's pushing frontiers. Brings out the best in us, imo. we already know that the universe will succumb to the entropic principle after an astonishing number of years. there will eventually be nothing but individual particles floating around with astronomical distances between them. i do also like that Musk is pushing frontiers with respect to Mars. another thing I view favourably in space travel is the prospect of asteroid mining. but I think most of the people who are obsessed with the space age are quite delusional in what we have to gain as the human race from it. the nearest solar system to ours is ~4 light years away iirc. it's just not feasible that we ever leave our home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, 112 said: imo space is uninteresting. i don't understand the obsession some people have with it. it's just rocks, gas and empty space. i guess terraforming mars is an interesting idea because it's within the realms of possibility, but people who think we're ever going to leave the solar system will be disappointed when it hasn't happened by the year 10,000. don't get me wrong: space travel has benefits on earth in the sense that lots of technologies were born out of it, but anyone who thinks we're ever going to be able to travel to distant planets and discover alien life is going to be left disappointed. i remain unmoved by spacex. Because, it opens up the possibility that we could load up rockets with Politicians and send them to Mars! Maybe we miss and accidentally hit the sun on the first couple of attempts, but I'm sure we'll get it right eventually..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, 112 said: we already know that the universe will succumb to the entropic principle after an astonishing number of years. there will eventually be nothing but individual particles floating around with astronomical distances between them. i do also like that Musk is pushing frontiers with respect to Mars. another thing I view favourably in space travel is the prospect of asteroid mining. but I think most of the people who are obsessed with the space age are quite delusional in what we have to gain as the human race from it. the nearest solar system to ours is ~4 light years away iirc. it's just not feasible that we ever leave our home. We don't know what we will discover. It's only been 100 years since we even knew that the universe was expanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, 112 said: we already know that the universe will succumb to the entropic principle after an astonishing number of years. there will eventually be nothing but individual particles floating around with astronomical distances between them. i do also like that Musk is pushing frontiers with respect to Mars. another thing I view favourably in space travel is the prospect of asteroid mining. but I think most of the people who are obsessed with the space age are quite delusional in what we have to gain as the human race from it. the nearest solar system to ours is ~4 light years away iirc. it's just not feasible that we ever leave our home. Big freeze, heat death, proton decay - there are lot of ways things could end. We'll just have to wait and find out. You just can't keep people from building things that go to outer space though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AatuD2 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 hours ago, 112 said: imo space is uninteresting. i don't understand the obsession some people have with it. it's just rocks, gas and empty space. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Bob Long said: its much more than that. Its where we'll find the answers to some big questions, like will the universe end. Elon is a dink, but I like that he's pushing frontiers. Brings out the best in us, imo. You definitely got that right! He's crazy, but most people who drive at this level usually are. I actually think I might have met him at an industry party years ago. Pretty sure it was him, just after he left PayPal and was looking for what to do next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 6 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: You definitely got that right! He's crazy, but most people who drive at this level usually are. I actually think I might have met him at an industry party years ago. Pretty sure it was him, just after he left PayPal and was looking for what to do next. So it's all your fault? You had to go mention electric cars, smh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Is there an over/under yet on how many pieces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Is there an over/under yet on how many pieces? Somebody set up us the bomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, 112 said: Somebody set up us the bomb. For great justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I hope any company Elon Musk runs or operates in any way fails miserably. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Disagree with @112 , space is super fucking cool. I dont see how we could be the one planet out of trillinions that is more than gas and rocks. That said, I think trying to blast rockets over to Mars is a waste of time given how vast space truly is. It might serve a short term purpose of proving itself to be completely impractical. Rockets won't ever be the answer to actually exploring the galaxy anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Doesn't sound good... SpaceX Starship rocket lost in second test flight https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/spacex-starship-launch-scn/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel D Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 On 11/15/2023 at 6:47 PM, 112 said: imo space is uninteresting. i don't understand the obsession some people have with it. it's just rocks, gas and empty space. Fight me IRL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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