Attila Umbrus Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 28 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Yep there’s no way we could have done this deal. And then if we waited for Guentzel to be available we still may not have gotten him. Then we would have had neither. Lindholm has helped improve our shutdown game which you need for the playoffs. I’m still good with the trade. Plus you look at the trade and we would have gutted our farm team. Our management group has said from the beginning they want to build players from the farm. Abby is in the middle of a playoff push and by gutting the team just to get Guentzle would in my opinion send a poor message. That they only care what happens on the big club. I think at some point at the trade deadline they took a look at our team and decided now is not the time to be trading our young prospects for a cup run. Which is great in my opinion. We are just entering our window of contention with a solid core that’s locked up long term. We need affordable depth talent coming from the farm to support our core through the next 5 years. If we traded Raty, Podz, Bains, or whatever we would be starting all over again in Abby development wise. I’m glad they weren’t willing to do that. I’m all for making a strong cup run but for me it’s even more exciting to think we are entering a time where we have a chance at multiple cup runs, not just this year. The cup is so hard to win. I’d rather multiple shots than just one single chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 5 minutes ago, Attila Umbrus said: Plus you look at the trade and we would have gutted our farm team. Our management group has said from the beginning they want to build players from the farm. Abby is in the middle of a playoff push and by gutting the team just to get Guentzle would in my opinion send a poor message. That they only care what happens on the big club. I think at some point at the trade deadline they took a look at our team and decided now is not the time to be trading our young prospects for a cup run. Which is great in my opinion. We are just entering our window of contention with a solid core that’s locked up long term. We need affordable depth talent coming from the farm to support our core through the next 5 years. If we traded Raty, Podz, Bains, or whatever we would be starting all over again in Abby development wise. I’m glad they weren’t willing to do that. I’m all for making a strong cup run but for me it’s even more exciting to think we are entering a time where we have a chance at multiple cup runs, not just this year. The cup is so hard to win. I’d rather multiple shots than just one single chance. But that’s the thing they didn’t want those players. The rumour was they wanted our high end guys (Lek or Willander). There was no deal to be made unless we overpaid severely. Sometimes teams just aren’t good trading partners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 11 minutes ago, DeNiro said: But that’s the thing they didn’t want those players. The rumour was they wanted our high end guys (Lek or Willander). There was no deal to be made unless we overpaid severely. Sometimes teams just aren’t good trading partners. yep, I wish I had the link for it but I'm certain it was reported by D&D and Friedman that teams weren't really interested in our 1st, they wanted one of our better prospects. Frankly we're fortunate that Cowtown wanted to change the channel on Dube and went for a long list of names over high quality. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: But that’s the thing they didn’t want those players. The rumour was they wanted our high end guys (Lek or Willander). There was no deal to be made unless we overpaid severely. Sometimes teams just aren’t good trading partners. Good lord that would have been even worse. I didn’t realize that’s what they wanted. Especially since management has a good chance signing Guentzle this off season if they wanted to 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 15 hours ago, Attila Umbrus said: good chance signing Guentzle this off season if they wanted to This is what I'm hoping for. Petey needs a scoring winger like Guentzel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 13 hours ago, N4ZZY said: This is what I'm hoping for. Petey needs a scoring winger like Guentzel. Maybe not, I might take that comment back lol…the way Garland and Hogz have been playing on his wing the last few games Guentzle may not be needed next season. Hopefully their chemistry continues into the playoffs. If it does I don’t know if we would go after him. He’s gonna command a lot cap wise. I’d love him on our team but the way he’s playing in Carolina is quickly raising his free agent stock. Could be too much for us. Plus we have a whole defensive roster to basically sign. Moneys gonna get skinny this summer! In no way am I saying Garland is better than Guentzle, but Guentzle is gonna get 7-8 mil as a ufa. Some GM is gonna throw the money at him. Garland is now looking like a great cost controlled option if he stays on Peteys wing consistently. Will be interesting to see what kind of moves we make in the summer. Good times in Canuck land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 30 minutes ago, Attila Umbrus said: Maybe not, I might take that comment back lol…the way Garland and Hogz have been playing on his wing the last few games Guentzle may not be needed next season. Hopefully their chemistry continues into the playoffs. If it does I don’t know if we would go after him. He’s gonna command a lot cap wise. I’d love him on our team but the way he’s playing in Carolina is quickly raising his free agent stock. Could be too much for us. Plus we have a whole defensive roster to basically sign. Moneys gonna get skinny this summer! In no way am I saying Garland is better than Guentzle, but Guentzle is gonna get 7-8 mil as a ufa. Some GM is gonna throw the money at him. Garland is now looking like a great cost controlled option if he stays on Peteys wing consistently. Will be interesting to see what kind of moves we make in the summer. Good times in Canuck land. That's true. Höglander is basically a 20 goal scorer now. So he's now proven that he can score at the NHL level. Consistency for him will be key. Garland I think could be a surprise fit for Petey's wing. But I don't really see him as a scoring winger. He's got what? 15 goals on the year? I'd like to see if Garland on Petey's wing is a fit longer term. But Guentzel is definitely better than Garland, but if he's asking for 7-8M at least, then there's no way we can afford him. That money probably goes to other FA's on the roster. Like Brock. Nobody's talking about him, but isn't he UFA this Summer? He could technically walk for nothing couldn't he? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) 15 hours ago, N4ZZY said: This is what I'm hoping for. Petey needs a scoring winger like Guentzel. that means one of Boeser, Milkeyev or garland needs to be traded also J Guentz is getting older... random speculation was that he wants something like 8 or 9 million x 6 years he will be 30 when next season starts Edited March 24 by canucks curse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 15 hours ago, N4ZZY said: This is what I'm hoping for. Petey needs a scoring winger like Guentzel. I hope not. He declined an 8.5 million dollar contract with the Penguins already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, N4ZZY said: That's true. Höglander is basically a 20 goal scorer now. So he's now proven that he can score at the NHL level. Consistency for him will be key. Garland I think could be a surprise fit for Petey's wing. But I don't really see him as a scoring winger. He's got what? 15 goals on the year? I'd like to see if Garland on Petey's wing is a fit longer term. But Guentzel is definitely better than Garland, but if he's asking for 7-8M at least, then there's no way we can afford him. That money probably goes to other FA's on the roster. Like Brock. Nobody's talking about him, but isn't he UFA this Summer? He could technically walk for nothing couldn't he? We have 1 more season with Brock till ufa. What really hurts is that’s when OELs largest part of his buyout cap applies. It will take some cap wizardry to build beyond this season. But we have a good group of young forwards to replace guys like Mik and Garland when their contracts are up. So we should be able to fortify from within and resign Brock. I want him locked up long term with Millsy. They are a great duo. I think Peteys long term duo could be Hogz but could also be Lekerimaki too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 On 3/24/2024 at 1:53 AM, N4ZZY said: This is what I'm hoping for. Petey needs a scoring winger like Guentzel. He already has one who's even better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 3/25/2024 at 1:57 AM, Elias Pettersson said: He already has one who's even better... Hogz is having a breakout 2nd half of the year he needs to keep going kudos to Hoggiez Abby and Van for turning things around so fast look at podz - talk about a turn around- even at full health I see podz in playoff lineup a lot of ppl had written both off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 3/25/2024 at 1:57 AM, Elias Pettersson said: He already has one who's even better... How many assists/points? Guentzel has 2 goals, 10 assists and 12 points since arriving in CAR (8games). I love me some Hoglander and all (wanted to pummel people who kept trying to trade him over the last year) but he's no Guentzel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/26/2024 at 8:10 AM, canucks curse said: Hogz is having a breakout 2nd half of the year he needs to keep going kudos to Hoggiez Abby and Van for turning things around so fast look at podz - talk about a turn around- even at full health I see podz in playoff lineup a lot of ppl had written both off I'm not sure if Podkolzin will ever amount to a player scoring 20 goals. He scored 14 one year, but I think we'd be really lucky if he can score that again. He's good defensively, but that might be what he is in the NHL - a defensive forward, which isn't a bad thing. Höglander this year has proven he can score 20 in this league. Could he be a 20-25 goal scorer? That would be huge for this organization moving forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/26/2024 at 5:42 PM, aGENT said: How many assists/points? Guentzel has 2 goals, 10 assists and 12 points since arriving in CAR (8games). I love me some Hoglander and all (wanted to pummel people who kept trying to trade him over the last year) but he's no Guentzel. Wonder if management's going to look into attempting to bring Guentzel here to be Petey's winger. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/25/2024 at 1:57 AM, Elias Pettersson said: He already has one who's even better... Yeah, Hoglander's done great this year. Let's see if he can repeat that next season . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/24/2024 at 6:14 PM, Attila Umbrus said: We have 1 more season with Brock till ufa. What really hurts is that’s when OELs largest part of his buyout cap applies. It will take some cap wizardry to build beyond this season. But we have a good group of young forwards to replace guys like Mik and Garland when their contracts are up. So we should be able to fortify from within and resign Brock. I want him locked up long term with Millsy. They are a great duo. I think Peteys long term duo could be Hogz but could also be Lekerimaki too. I can see both being on his wings to be honest. I also want Boeser here until his career is done. He bleeds blue, green and white. Mik and Garland will be replaced internally, I agree with you there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da.moose Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 (edited) whoops Edited April 1 by da.moose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexM94 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 38 minutes ago, da.moose said: Injured Reserve: The Washington Capitals place Logan O'Connor on the injured reserve https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/avalanche Activation: The Washington Capitals activate Evgeny Kuznetsov and place him on the NHL roster Washington Capitals Lineup: Carter Verhaeghe - Mark Scheifele - William Nylander Miles Wood - Evgeny Kuznetsov - Anthony Mantha Cole Smith - Adam Henrique - Stefan Noesen Brandon Duhaime - Kevin Stenlund - Andrew Cogliano Kyle Okposo Devon Toews - Brady Skjei Brenden Dillon - Jake McCabe Nikita Zadorov - Ryan Suter Joel Edmundson - Vincent Desharnais Andrei Vasilevskiy Jonathan Quick ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 3 hours ago, DexM94 said: ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Kyle Dubas is looking like a genius with this trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 21 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: Kyle Dubas is looking like a genius with this trade Certainly built solid depth for their future. Carolina is looking pretty damn solid now too. Win-win? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 3/23/2024 at 9:11 AM, DeNiro said: But that’s the thing they didn’t want those players. The rumour was they wanted our high end guys (Lek or Willander). There was no deal to be made unless we overpaid severely. Sometimes teams just aren’t good trading partners. Yeah, and Guentzel's a UFA in the off-season. Possible that he entertains all possible offers - Vancouver could be a possible landing place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 4/12/2024 at 12:11 PM, HKSR said: Certainly built solid depth for their future. Carolina is looking pretty damn solid now too. Win-win? Carolina plays Islanders. Who you cheering for? Bo and New York? Go Guentzel Go! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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