canucks curse Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 https://canucksarmy.com/news/amp/nhl-mock-trade-canucks-trade-nils-hoglander-brett-pesce moving Brett Pesce talk here ? to me this is a big piece Canucks need Hughes - Pesce Cole - Hronek Soucy - Myers then Bear best top pair in league best top 3 d in league possibly best top 4 in league 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 He’d be a fantastic fit for us but I don’t see us doing anything else until some cap clears up. Either through trades or injuries or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted September 16, 2023 Author Share Posted September 16, 2023 Something like : To VAN pesce To CAR hogz Myers 2025 2nd and 3rd - changes to top 5 protected 1st if Pesce re - signs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Pesce would be a great add. I have a feeling he ends up in EDM getting overpaid lol. Would suit Quinn quite well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 As training camp looms, Carolina Hurricanes roll dice on expiring contracts for big names Luke DeCock Fri, September 15, 2023 at 7:38 AM PDT·3 min read Robert Willett/rwillett@newsobserver.com Brett Pesce, still here. Brady Skjei, still here. Teuvo Teravainen, still here. And all without new contracts that go beyond this season. Carolina Hurricanes owner Tom Dundon wasn’t joking last spring about going all in on this campaign. When training camp opens this week, all three players will be entering the final year of their contracts, putting the Hurricanes in a position where they risk losing them for nothing after the season. Those matters are typically handled over the summer, either through trade or contract extension, but nothing emerged that made sense for both sides (and, Hurricanes general manager Don Waddell said, hasn’t even been discussed since July). “We’d like to get something done but it’s not there to be done right now,” Waddell said. “We can’t force it.” Which means the Hurricanes will roll the dice on all three in pursuit of a Stanley Cup, willing to risk anything to win everything. Pesce and Skjei are both unquestioned top-four defensemen in the prime of their careers, the kind that can command huge contracts on a free-agent market conditioned to overpay for players like them. (Even the Hurricanes willingly overpaid for Dmitri Orlov over the summer, in return for a shorter-term contract that fit their salary-cap situation.) If it gets to the end of the season, the Hurricanes are unlikely to be able to re-sign both, and they will have foregone the presumably strong returns either would bring in a trade. NHL teams, and the Hurricanes especially, typically hate that kind of uncertainty. For the moment, with Orlov joining the five returning defensemen, the Hurricanes have the deepest blue line in the NHL, and arguably the best top to bottom. Teravainen is less of a gamble, since his value as a trade asset is lower given his recent history and the Hurricanes will be expecting his best in a contract year. He’s the kind of player, at 29, where it may make some sense to let him play out his contract and wish him the best elsewhere with a laurel and a hearty handshake. Sebastian Aho will get over it. Still, in some ways, it’s all a very un-Dundon approach to contract management. Letting an asset depreciate to zero isn’t his style – and there’s certainly plenty of time, six months before the NHL trade deadline, for a resolution, one way or the other – but in this case the potential costs of being trapped in a negotiating corner at the end of the year were outweighed by the competitive benefits. “We’re waiting to see how things go,” Waddell said, “and we’ll deal with it.” So for all the changes over the offseason, most notably Orlov and winger Michael Bunting, the Hurricanes will still have a very familiar look, with some of their longer-serving faces returning when they could have departed: Pesce, Skjei, Teravainen and both goalies, who sniffed the free-agent market and decided to stay. There was already a lot riding on this season – Can the Hurricanes handle the evolution from everyone’s favorite playoff sleeper to everyone’s playoff favorite and finish the job? – but until and unless those contract situations are resolved in some way, there’s even more hanging in the balance. Which, after so many seasons with so little on the line, is actually kind of refreshing. There’s no risk in pushing all your chips into the middle of the table when you only have a handful. Bigger stakes bring bigger rewards. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/training-camp-looms-carolina-hurricanes-143822189.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Not sure how the cap moves would work.... maybe a 3 way between CHI-CAR-VAN that moves out Myers at the same time? I'm all for it if we can keep a 1st round pick out of the deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 (edited) I see what you did there, @canucks curse Edited September 16, 2023 by PhillipBlunt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 I thought we were poking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Hurricanes blueliner Brett Pesce has switched agents, reports Chip Alexander of the Raleigh News & Observer. After working with Edge Sports Management, the defenseman is now represented by Wasserman’s Judd Moldaver. The timing of the change is notable since the 28-year-old is entering the final year of his contract. Pesce has emerged as a quality top-three defender over the past few years and set a new career-high in points last season with 30. He’s undoubtedly in line to land a sizable raise on his current $4.025MM AAV but with Brady Skjei also in need of a new deal, Carolina probably won’t be able to afford to keep both. Pesce made it clear that his preference is to remain with the Hurricanes but earlier this summer, GM Don Waddell noted that the team wasn’t close to re-signing any of their pending UFAs. https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2023/09/hurricanes-notes-pesce-teravainen-deangelo.html#ref=home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeremyCuddles Posted September 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: I thought we were poking Poking, fishing, soon to be prodding. No stone left unturned. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiak Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 If we could pry whitecloud from Vegas. He’s perfect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 4 hours ago, canucks curse said: Something like : To VAN pesce To CAR hogz Myers 2025 2nd and 3rd - changes to top 5 protected 1st if Pesce re - signs What does Myers provide exactly, and what does Hoglander? The Swede's had a tough time keeping a roster spot as is, and he'll be bottom-6 there too (behind Svech - Necas - Bunting - Jarvis). Trading a cap dump and a project for a likely big-ticket playoff rental/ possible future extension piece doesn't do much for Carolina IMO. That said, if we're nickel-and-diming, I would see if we could trade Myers for Teravainen if they do trade Pesce and don't get a defender back. We'd save some money, they can get a stopgap RHD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 1 hour ago, JeremyCuddles said: Poking, fishing, soon to be prodding. No stone left unturned. F it, kidnapping and extortion if they have to.....get it done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rekker said: F it, kidnapping and extortion if they have to.....get it done. I like the cut of your jib. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Despite all the additions we do feel like we are still a top 2 pairings right D short. Same problem as always, someone to compliment Q. This is a hard deal for us. Carolina is going for it legitimately and we are going for it foolishly. Just not sure we have the right pieces and don’t think it is the time Carolina wants to take a deal based around our first especially if we need to find a cap dump as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 4 hours ago, DrJockitch said: Despite all the additions we do feel like we are still a top 2 pairings right D short. Same problem as always, someone to compliment Q. This is a hard deal for us. Carolina is going for it legitimately and we are going for it foolishly. Just not sure we have the right pieces and don’t think it is the time Carolina wants to take a deal based around our first especially if we need to find a cap dump as well. totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 We need Myers out and a big two way top 4 Dman in... But I don't want the 1st rounder going the other way in a trade.. we've traded too many 1sts and 2nds . Need to draft and develop for a few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 19 hours ago, JeremyCuddles said: Poking, fishing, soon to be prodding. No stone left unturned. Sounds like their fishing in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jester13 Posted September 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2023 19 hours ago, Phil_314 said: What does Myers provide exactly, and what does Hoglander? The Swede's had a tough time keeping a roster spot as is, and he'll be bottom-6 there too (behind Svech - Necas - Bunting - Jarvis). Trading a cap dump and a project for a likely big-ticket playoff rental/ possible future extension piece doesn't do much for Carolina IMO. That said, if we're nickel-and-diming, I would see if we could trade Myers for Teravainen if they do trade Pesce and don't get a defender back. We'd save some money, they can get a stopgap RHD. Myers, Hoglander, and a 1st. (New CDC feels like old CDC already) 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotCanuck Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 New Forum - first posting for some time! Thanks guys, for setting this up. Would be great to add another quality RHD, but please keep next year's first round pick. Presumably, management are weighing up some options and not resting on their laurels? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honkin Hronek Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Carolina probably doesn't move Pesce for anything less than a 1st and Hogs. He would be a perfect Tanev replacement for Hughes, but I don't see it happening, especially given he only has a year left and we need to re-sign Hronek and Petey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 From what I understand, his play has already started to decline and he will want a long term contract worth a lot of money. I’m not sure he will end up being an OEL or Myers level of an albatross, but we could end up regretting that deal in year 3 or 4 of what will probably be an 8 year deal. I say no thank you, unless he is willing to sign for under market value and I’m assuming he won’t be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Snoop Hogg said: From what I understand, his play has already started to decline and he will want a long term contract worth a lot of money. I’m not sure he will end up being an OEL or Myers level of an albatross, but we could end up regretting that deal in year 3 or 4 of what will probably be an 8 year deal. I say no thank you, unless he is willing to sign for under market value and I’m assuming he won’t be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat land fish Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Honkin Hronek said: Carolina probably doesn't move Pesce for anything less than a 1st and Hogs. He would be a perfect Tanev replacement for Hughes, but I don't see it happening, especially given he only has a year left and we need to re-sign Hronek and Petey. Wait until Calgary is out of it and bring Tanev in for the stretch run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Lou Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 On 9/16/2023 at 12:12 PM, JeremyCuddles said: Poking, fishing, soon to be prodding. No stone left unturned. Poking and prodding a player?? Babs is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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