RWJC Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) Unsure if previously referenced or posted anywhere yet, so: Canucks, Leafs made aware of Flames' asking price for Tanev: report Noah Strang Feb 2 2024, 11:25 am The Calgary Flames are not finished trading, even after their recent deal with the Vancouver Canucks. They still have some of the most desirable assets who will almost surely get moved before the trade deadline, namely Chris Tanev. The asking price for the veteran player has now been made clear. It’s going to take two assets to pry the 34-year-old defenceman away from the Flames. “The price right now for Tanev, I’m told, is a second-round pick plus another asset,” reported LeBrun. It was previously reported that more than 10 teams have inquired about Tanev. “There is more interest in him than there actually was in Elias Lindholm. A ton of teams keep calling on Chris Tanev. Among them, the Toronto Maple Leafs,” explained TSN’s Pierre LeBrun from the NHL All-Star Game in Toronto this morning. That asking price will be an issue for the Maple Leafs as they have traded all of their second-round picks in exchange for Ryan Dzingel, Ilya Lyubushkin, Ryan O’Reilly, Sam Lafferty, and Jake McCabe over the past few seasons. This means that it could cost them even more. “The Leafs have no second-round picks for the next three years, so it’s going to take a first-round pick if the Leafs want to get Chris Tanev out of Calgary,” LeBrun finished with. For the Canucks, that asking price is still possible as they own their 2025 and 2026 second-round picks. The big mystery then becomes what the other asset in the trade would be. The first-place team already sold off some of their picks and prospects to acquire another Flames player, Elias Lindholm. Will they further deplete their prospect pool to bring home the rugged defenceman? Tanev has one goal and eight assists in 46 games so far this season. All the teams after him are not looking for offensive production. He’s one of the toughest players in the league and widely viewed as a strong shutdown defenceman. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canucks-leafs-aware-flames-price-tanev Edited February 13 by RWJC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted February 13 Popular Post Share Posted February 13 For a 2nd a prospect like Woo I would do it. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wai_lai416 Posted February 13 Popular Post Share Posted February 13 dont see how we can afford tanev anymore.. we have 0 cap space and we still have to make space for soucy when he comes off the LTIR.. i doubt he's on there till playoff.. only chance we had at tanev was lindholm and tanev together both 50% retained.. right now i don't see it happening anymore 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichterBelmont Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, wai_lai416 said: dont see how we can afford tanev anymore.. we have 0 cap space and we still have to make space for soucy when he comes off the LTIR.. i doubt he's on there till playoff.. only chance we had at tanev was lindholm and tanev together both 50% retained.. right now i don't see it happening anymore Soucy is on regular IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 8 minutes ago, RichterBelmont said: Soucy is on regular IR. ok even if we don't have to make space for soucy how do we get a tanev? even at max retention we still need to find 2.25mil cap space unless we figure out a way to move myers which i see 0 teams have interest in.. i mean why would they want myers if they can go for a tanev instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 36 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: ok even if we don't have to make space for soucy how do we get a tanev? even at max retention we still need to find 2.25mil cap space unless we figure out a way to move myers which i see 0 teams have interest in.. i mean why would they want myers if they can go for a tanev instead? I think Myers is built for the playoffs. I thought he was one of our best D during the bubble playoffs. St Louis had to hit him from behind to knock him out of the series 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, CanucksJay said: I think Myers is built for the playoffs. I thought he was one of our best D during the bubble playoffs. St Louis had to hit him from behind to knock him out of the series oh i'm not adovcating ridding myers for tanev unless it's just a straight trade across.. having myers on the 3rd paring is a luxury in the playoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2nd and Woo in a heart-beat but cap-wise we'd have to be very sneaky and probably get Soucy on LTIR but surely he won't be out until the playoffs. Is there any way we flip Myers + 2nd for Tanev, and we retain what we need to get it across the line? Not sure about Myers, whether he carries positive or negative value right now but his stat line is pretty decent. Other option is 2nd + Lafferty and they retain 50% and we just move some guys around? Hughes - Hronek Cole - Tanev Zadorov - Myers Soucy That's a cup-winning defence right there. Obviously Soucy rotates in and out with Zadorov and maybe Cole/Myers if they get tired down the stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I think Calgary is just going to wait it out until the leaf gets desperate enough.. they know Toronto wants him and they have nothing to trade for him other than a 1st so prolly something like tanev 50% and a pick or prospect for torontos 1st 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, wai_lai416 said: oh i'm not adovcating ridding myers for tanev unless it's just a straight trade across.. having myers on the 3rd paring is a luxury in the playoff If they did trade for Tanev, as long as it means we don't have to waive Juulsen it's fine. When Soucy comes back, he's our 7th D, which we can manage riding the pine, but adding Tanev would drop him to 8th. Debatable if it's Zadarov or Juulsen right now really. I'd say Zadarov and Juulsen are pretty close to equal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 4 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: I think Calgary is just going to wait it out until the leaf gets desperate enough.. they know Toronto wants him and they have nothing to trade for him other than a 1st so prolly something like tanev 50% and a pick or prospect for torontos 1st Pretty sure that's where he ends up too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 5 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: I think Calgary is just going to wait it out until the leaf gets desperate enough.. they know Toronto wants him and they have nothing to trade for him other than a 1st so prolly something like tanev 50% and a pick or prospect for torontos 1st Leafs’ 2024 first could be a lottery pick. Value is high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 brad treliving is smart enough to know that the leafs aren't a chris tanev away from a cup. he wants him, but he'd be far smarter to try to sign him in the offseason than trade a 1st for him when the leafs have shown nothing this year to indicate they're legit contenders. the canucks, on the other hand ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 11 minutes ago, Alflives said: Leafs’ 2024 first could be a lottery pick. Value is high. Haha if samsonov is back to early season form yeah I can see that lol they are in the thick of 3rd in division or wc or missing out. Maybe they go for the home run and go 1st samsonov Cowan or minten for tanev and markstrom. Woll still not sure when he’s back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 20 minutes ago, IBatch said: If they did trade for Tanev, as long as it means we don't have to waive Juulsen it's fine. When Soucy comes back, he's our 7th D, which we can manage riding the pine, but adding Tanev would drop him to 8th. Debatable if it's Zadarov or Juulsen right now really. I'd say Zadarov and Juulsen are pretty close to equal. If zadorov is your 7/8th D that’s really poor cap management that’s like 3.75mil sitting in the press box unless soucy is gone till playoff and we can utilize his cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 54 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: If zadorov is your 7/8th D that’s really poor cap management that’s like 3.75mil sitting in the press box unless soucy is gone till playoff and we can utilize his cap wouldn't it be really good cap management if you could afford to have a 7th-8th guy being paid that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain insano Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Woo being showcased tonight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 If Tanev ends up here, it'll be with a 3rd party involved. Double retention makes Tanev a $1.125m cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 34 minutes ago, tas said: wouldn't it be really good cap management if you could afford to have a 7th-8th guy being paid that much? no that means you have 3.75mil sitting in the pressbox not playing so you are essentially icing a 80mil cap team on the ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 27 minutes ago, Captain insano said: Woo being showcased tonight Isn’t Woo from Smelly Cowpieville? Could see a Woo + for Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 24 minutes ago, HKSR said: If Tanev ends up here, it'll be with a 3rd party involved. Double retention makes Tanev a $1.125m cap hit. Could happen but that’ll cost too much draft capital plus I think Calgary is just casually waiting for Toronto to pony up their 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 24 minutes ago, HKSR said: If Tanev ends up here, it'll be with a 3rd party involved. Double retention makes Tanev a $1.125m cap hit. Couldn’t we retroactively put Soucy on LTIR and accommodate Tanev’s cap that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 40 minutes ago, tas said: wouldn't it be really good cap management if you could afford to have a 7th-8th guy being paid that much? Hughes Heronek Soucy Tanev Cole Myers/Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 30 minutes ago, Alflives said: Couldn’t we retroactively put Soucy on LTIR and accommodate Tanev’s cap that way? We run the risk of Soucy returning before the end of the regular season then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Captain insano said: Woo being showcased tonight Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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