Milan Lucic will be taking an indefinite LoA after a domestic incident.

[Crimson JH]

 

 

[6of1_halfdozenofother]

Once a goon, always a goon. 

[-dlc-]

Sad. There are always two sides to every story. In domestic disputes nothing ever warrants a man putting his hands on a woman. Walk away. Go to the garage and punch a punching bag. 

 

And it works the other way too...if she's assaulting him charge her. But never should a man "fight back". Especially a big man known for fighting.

 

As a 20 year victim of domestic abuse who kept that on the downlow until recently, it really changes your life in a traumatic way. Still working on the anxiety I suffer created escalated by that situation (I also watched some domestic abuse as a child and that likely factored in to the choices I made in life. Mine was actually in reverse...Mom abusing Dad).

[hockeyville88]

This is crazy. I know he is a goon on the ice, but he has never had that reputation off of it. He seems like a great family man and someone who has always been involved in the community. Perhaps it is a sign of poor mental health And being in a bad place right now.

 

Either way, I wish him well and hope he is able to get the help he needs to be well 

[Canuck You]

6 minutes ago, -dlc- said:

Sad. There are always two sides to every story and in domestic disputes, however, nothing ever warrants a man putting his hands on a woman. Walk away. Go to the garage and punch a punching bag. 

 

And it works the other way too...if she's assaulting him charge her. But never should a man "fight back". Especially a big man known for fighting.

 

As a 20 year victim of domestic abuse who kept that on the downlow until recently, it really changes your life in a traumatic way. Still working on the anxiety I suffer from created by that situation.

The problem is that Lucic identifies themself as a woman.

[Bob Long]

Sad to see. Go get help Milan.

[Gurn]

143 fights in the NHL

https://www.hockeyfights.com/players/2638

 

 

likely candidate for CTE

[Sophomore Jinx]

22 minutes ago, Gurn said:

143 fights in the NHL

https://www.hockeyfights.com/players/2638

 

 

likely candidate for CTE

Yes, it is definitely a thing.

 

My cousin had around the same fight count, with nasty guys like McGrattan and Brashear et al...I think CTE had a hand in his depression and taking of  his own life.

[-dlc-]

I'm glad that we're looking at this from all angles, including the one where a guy whose job it was to fight and be tough suffers his own consequences in that. Those blows have an impact. Concussions will manifest themselves in all kinds of ways.

 

I imagine there's no on/off switch and firing yourself up on ice can carry over.

 

One of the reasons I felt empathy and protective regarding my ex was that he'd experienced some trauma and his fight or flight instinct was strong and ignited pretty quickly. Also, I've learned it was "comfortable" for me to live in turmoil. Normal.

 

It's important that all of this stuff is discussed and there's no stigma surrounding it. Looking beyond an incident to identify a root cause and perhaps changing the course of things for the future is important. Blame, shame...all the things that surround these incidents should be removed and the focus should be on fixing things. 

 

With that, help is out there and there's really no excuse to explode and unleash on others and pass things along to them. 

 

He's not a monster, but he's a guy with all kinds of resources at his disposal so it'll be up to him to use them if necessary. I hope he does.

[higgyfan]

35 minutes ago, Gurn said:

143 fights in the NHL

https://www.hockeyfights.com/players/2638

 

 

likely candidate for CTE

 

Every young stud coming into the NHL in the last decade has wanted to fight the old soldier.  This

stat is alarming and I would be surprised if Lucic doesn't have some serious brain trauma.

[-dlc-]

59 minutes ago, hockeyville88 said:

but he has never had that reputation off of it. He seems like a great family man and someone who has always been involved in the community.

This is interesting to me. My ex was a respected/very well regarded union man who held a high position at work. It can be a well kept secret (what goes on behind the scenes). Jekyll and Hyde stuff. "The nicest guy".

 

Although I feel that people close to victims often know or at least sense things...there are signs that are often ignored as people don't want to get involved or interfere. "None of my business" mentality. 

 

 

[Provost]

The dude has always been a dummy.

 

Hopefully when more info comes to light this is mitigated a little and we don’t find out that his family has been living in an abusive relationship long term.

[gwarrior]

He looks completely wrecked in that mug shot.

[-dlc-]

And this is a selfish thought....some here suggested we sign this guy. I'm glad now that we didn't (regardless of who's right/wrong here). Our team needs to move away from a negative dramatic spotlight being shone on them and to just have the focus be on hockey. So a near miss if ever we were considering this. Let Boston deal with this mess and a little adversity for once. I empathize with the family/Luc but I'm also glad it's not our team even if hockey is one big family. A team so highly touted and supported by the league falls from grace a bit. Stigma IS attached (as much as I hate that) and until that changes, it's not lowly Vancouver being talked about.
 

[bishopshodan]

Mug shot with no shirt on... Was he wacked out on something? did the police have to take him immediately?. 

 

Looks like every second suspect on the show Cops. 

 

Damn, Looch get your shit together. Get help. 

 

[-dlc-]

 

Weird....in that mug shot he's got a lazy eye. Like my ex.

[PhillipBlunt]

10 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

Mug shot with no shirt on... Was he wacked out on something? did the police have to take him immediately?. 

 

Looks like every second suspect on the show Cops. 

 

Damn, Looch get your shit together. Get help. 

 

He’s always been a fan of the liquor. 

[Jess]

These situations can be complicated, so yeah, he'll need to be away from hockey to deal with the more important things like this and undoubtedly, counselling will be needed.

[-dlc-]

For me, the saddest part in all of this is.....children. They have kids and it's truly sad when children have to be subjected to domestic violence. The two people they trust the most hurting each other. It's really messed up for kids to have to endure this and figure it all out. It can mess kids up for the rest of their lives and breach their trust. Extremely confusing for kids to try to navigate through domestic violence.

 

So, above all else, I hope the kids get some help through this.

[Rekker]

Oh boy, Heffy gonna have a fun time with this one.

[Sophomore Jinx]

And another thing to consider in regard to CTE, and it's potential impact to the emotional and physical health of the athlete, and in particular it's correlation to the NHL "fighters", is that they didn't just start fighting their tough peers once they were in the NHL, they also had many, many fights in junior as well, with blows to the head of in many cases, still developing brains, and when brain injury synapse may likely, and irreversibly have already occurred.

 

I don't know the details of this Looch thing, but if he is guilty I certainly wouldn't condone his behavior, it would be unacceptable and abhorrent, but at the same time I would hope he would get the help he needs, and that the parties involved could find healing and closure also.

 

 

[Snoop Hogg]

It’s hard to pass judgement until we know all the facts, but it certainly does not look good. Maybe he’s experienced trauma in his life. Maybe he hasn’t. Not everyone who has is abusive though. I’ll refer you all to Linden Vey. 

[PureQuickness]

6 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said:

It’s hard to pass judgement until we know all the facts, but it certainly does not look good. Maybe he’s experienced trauma in his life. Maybe he hasn’t. Not everyone who has is abusive though. I’ll refer you all to Linden Vey. 

Yes, we have to reserve judgement until all the facts (if at all) come out. There's more than one side of the story. It doesn't mean that Lucic should be given excuses, but it also means that there are extenuating circumstances that none of us can imagine when things play out. There's a difference. People can be BOTH aggressors and victims. There's no contradiction in that.

[Haddy]

It's always the ones you'd least expect

[Master Mind]