billydakid Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 11:04 AM, Bob Long said: It really is. It's too bad it looks like bust territory. But maybe he can stay on Abby a bit longer on an AHL only contract? Who knows maybe he can put it together by 24-25 to be a solid 4th liner? Bust territory? How? 19 years old in the AHL, in another country, barely speaks the language and had 17 goals and 29 points in 67 games, up from 18pts in 62 games as an 18 year old in the second hardest pro league in the world? He's played 5 games and has been injured alot this year and is 20 years old What kind of nonsense is this, bust? What are you on bro? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Just now, billydakid said: Bust territory? How? 19 years old in the AHL, in another country, barely speaks the language and had 17 goals and 29 points in 67 games, up from 18pts in 62 games as an 18 year old in the second hardest pro league in the world? He's played 5 games and has been injured alot this year and is 20 years old What kind of nonsense is this, bust? What are you on bro? Don't bro me, pal. I said 'looking like' - in comparison with his teammates he's struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billydakid Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Don't bro me, pal. I said 'looking like' - in comparison with his teammates he's struggling. 5 games - looking like a bust lmao "bro" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, billydakid said: 5 games - looking like a bust lmao "bro" 5 games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billydakid Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bob Long said: 5 games? I think I expressed my point in regards to the 5 games in the original response to you Perhaps you could try reading it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, billydakid said: I think I expressed my point in regards to the 5 games in the original response to you Perhaps you could try reading it He turns 21 in a month, stats thus far have been underwhelming, was healthy scratched early on this season already then got hurt. I wouldn't say bust but it isn't looking good right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wiggums said: He turns 21 in a month, stats thus far have been underwhelming, was healthy scratched early on this season already then got hurt. I wouldn't say bust but it isn't looking good right now He was never healthy scratched, it was bad reporting by Vancouver media. He had groin pull. This trip to Calgary - he got sick, should be fine soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billydakid Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Wiggums said: He turns 21 in a month, stats thus far have been underwhelming, was healthy scratched early on this season already then got hurt. I wouldn't say bust but it isn't looking good right now Whatever I don't judge a 20 year old kid in the AHL who's improved 2 seasons in a row, and was off to a slow start and got hurt, as a bust or close to it ( like many here do). Alot of people said Jett Woo was a bust and guess what? He's starting to show he could be a player. This idea that players have to be proving they're all world or a bust (binary thinking) is pervasive among many (in all aspects of thinking /society), and its overly simplistic. I recall a player named Nikushkin being screamed about because we took Horvat instead. Then Nikushkin was a bust, and now...well I am pretty sure every NHL team would love to have him, and he was what, 10th overall? Many Canucks fans seem to expect a 2nd rounder to be a ppg at 20 years old in the AHL, or BUST!!! Bust I say!!! Jesus Edited November 28, 2023 by billydakid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, billydakid said: I think I expressed my point in regards to the 5 games in the original response to you Perhaps you could try reading it dunno Bro, I'm already bored of us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billydakid Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bob Long said: dunno Bro, I'm already bored of us. Here's an idea to ponder Player development is more often than not, not a straight line / trajectory...it takes time... weird I know And ironically, Danila's development other than 5 games has been a straight line up Yet somehow he's a bust or close to it ...lmao Edited November 28, 2023 by billydakid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Just now, billydakid said: Here's an idea to ponder Player development is more often than not, not a straight line / trajectory...it takes time... weird I know actually more often than not, prospects are busts. #statistics and I don't care. You have your ideas, I have mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billydakid Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Just now, Bob Long said: actually more often than not, prospects are busts. #statistics and I don't care. You have your ideas, I have mine. Its always easy to be the pessimist isn't it? No risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, billydakid said: Its always easy to be the pessimist isn't it? No risk do you have anything to add about the prospect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billydakid Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: do you have anything to add about the prospect? Already did you just kept asking me to repeat it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 It's going to be tough for Klim to get back into the level of play due to being out for so long. Like someone else pointed out, he has shown an improvement during the last 2 seasons. Keep in mind that Raty was drafted in the same year, 11 pics behind Klim. Raty is clearly pulling away from him in every part of the game. Luckily the management very wisely delayed signing him until this year, so Klim has 2 more years of ELC after this season. This will give him more (stress free) time to develop; especially having to catch up after the horrible start this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RomanPer Posted November 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2023 3 hours ago, higgyfan said: It's going to be tough for Klim to get back into the level of play due to being out for so long. Like someone else pointed out, he has shown an improvement during the last 2 seasons. Keep in mind that Raty was drafted in the same year, 11 pics behind Klim. Raty is clearly pulling away from him in every part of the game. Luckily the management very wisely delayed signing him until this year, so Klim has 2 more years of ELC after this season. This will give him more (stress free) time to develop; especially having to catch up after the horrible start this season. There’s some incorrect information here. The management didn’t wait to sign him until this year. He was signed 2 years ago (2.5, to be exact), but due to his age and him playing in AHL, he was eligible to have his contract “slide” the first 2 years, so his 3 year entry level became 5 year entry level. He was still being paid these last 2 years. As for the other posters already claiming him as a bust, I prefer to listen to the Sedins - they understand hockey just a bit better than all of us combined. And their opinion about Danila is completely different than “bust”. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 the real winners of Corey-gate the canuccccckkssssss CAP SPACE BABY !!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 KLIMOVICH = SWEEEEEETNERRRRR for a trade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, canucks curse said: KLIMOVICH = SWEEEEEETNERRRRR for a trade Yup. Klim doesn’t have much value though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 37 minutes ago, Alflives said: Yup. Klim doesn’t have much value though. true, he's more of a sweet'n low than a legit sweetner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RomanPer Posted November 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2023 All you non-believers will eat crow when the kid fulfils his personal promise to me to score the game winning goal to win the Stanley Cup for the Canucks 2 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Fist Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I don't know about bust. didn't they say when they drafted him that he was going to be a long term project. He didn't have much playing time due to covid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 12 hours ago, canucks curse said: KLIMOVICH = SWEEEEEETNERRRRR for a trade Yes, when your prospects don't immediately become superstars it's important to dump them quickly before they ripen and develop any value. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: Yes, when your prospects don't immediately become superstars it's important to dump them quickly before they ripen and develop any value. Does Klim have any value? I’d say not any. Great young man but imo a miss. If he can be sweetener (I don’t think he has that value) then absolutely we should move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: Yes, when your prospects don't immediately become superstars it's important to dump them quickly before they ripen and develop any value. Not sure why it has to be a touchy issue. Only 1/3 of 2nd rounders have any playing time at all. Klim is underperforming, it's not a dig it's just realty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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