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Popular Post Jester13 Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 Centre market is thin because we've cornered it 11 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I wonder what the ask would be. Not that I want to go after him. Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I guess they liked the price they saw for Lindholm so wanted to throw their own centre into the mix. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Always like his game, doubt we can make this trade, but man, what an add that would be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain insano Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Philly is going to want an impact player back is my guess, position swap perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 38 minutes ago, Rekker said: Always like his game, doubt we can make this trade, but man, what an add that would be. We actually don't really need him anymore. We're overloaded down the middle now. If anything, we could use a top 6 winger now that Kuzmenko is gone. A cheap winger in the form of Sprong, or Carcone would work. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, HKSR said: We actually don't really need him anymore. We're overloaded down the middle now. If anything, we could use a top 6 winger now that Kuzmenko is gone. A cheap winger in the form of Sprong, or Carcone would work. Need a big body winger. Centers can always swap to wing, but I’m guessing the ask for him would be too much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Fist Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Provost said: I guess they liked the price they saw for Lindholm so wanted to throw their own centre into the mix. we messed up the trade market for everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Provost Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, Iron Fist said: we messed up the trade market for everyone else. The price we paid was perfectly fine. A bunch of quantity and we preserved our quality. That is a huge win. Aside from Kuzmenko, it is more likely that they never even see an NHL player out of that package than any of those prices turn into something significant. 1 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 48MPHSlapshot Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 "The center market is relatively thin" 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Fist Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, Provost said: The price we paid was perfectly fine. A bunch of quantity and we preserved our quality. That is a huge win. Aside from Kuzmenko, it is more likely that they never even see an NHL player out of that package than any of those prices turn into something significant. The price we paid was fine. I meant now people are going to have to overpay for centers like Monahan or Henrique. their price went up from a second rounder to a first plus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) Mikheyev and next years 1st for this man. We'll throw in Kudryavtsev. We need a new Kuzy and a 1st to throw at everyone Edited February 1 by JeremyCuddles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWestNuck Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 4 minutes ago, JeremyCuddles said: Mikheyev and next years 1st for this man. We'll throw in Kudryavtsev. We need a new Kuzy and a 1st to throw at everyone You may be joking, but I seriously think using Kudryavtsev to upgrade Mik into a more offensive player is exactly what we should do if we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 What is Philly supposed to do here? Like us, they would've considered a wild card spot a massive success. But now they've lost one of the better goalies in the league. So... take the L they expected and continue the rebuild? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Nah. Might be slipping into his underperforming years and he's not needed. We can find some grit for the 4th line for a lot cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: What is Philly supposed to do here? Like us, they would've considered a wild card spot a massive success. But now they've lost one of the better goalies in the league. So... take the L they expected and continue the rebuild? I think they're probably still retooling, I wouldn't be surprise if their team success has caught management a bit off guard. Losing Hart is a big loss, no bones about it, despite their having a seemingly capable tender in Ersson. Flyers are 5-5-0 in their last ten, with the last 5 being losses. They've also tumbled to the eighth seed but several teams are on their tail. Flyers have 56 points in 50GP. Islanders have 52 in 49GP. Pens are arguably the biggest threat, with 51 in 46. Four games could be a large swing. Devils have 51 points in 47, they can't be counted out either. Particularly once Hughes is back. Washington is a bit of a surprise, but they've been plucky defensively at have 41 points in 47 games as well. I wouldn't expect anything drastic from Philly, but moving Laughton isn't drastic. He's got two seasons left at a 3M cap hit, if a team gets desperate they'd be smart to take a high price for him. Flyers are in a good place capwise, not too many longer term deals. The next one will probably be Konecny, and he'll just cannibalize some of Atkinson's deal as they expire the same offseason. Trading Laughton and Walker could help their retool. If they don't see themselves making the playoffs it might be smart to cash in, looks like it could be a sellers market this go round. Edited February 1 by Coconuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, DeNiro said: Need a big body winger. Centers can always swap to wing, but I’m guessing the ask for him would be too much. Price is way too much. We'd be paying a premium for another centre when we just need a winger... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sativika Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 6 hours ago, HKSR said: Price is way too much. We'd be paying a premium for another centre when we just need a winger... Agreed. I think we're more than okay at centre. Especially after acquiring Lindholm. A big ass winger would be great; Greenway, Crouse......I dunno. I'm just rappin' off names mentioned in CFF. Honestly, a top grade winger or a top grade D man aren't totally necessary. I mean it'd be awesome, but I don't think we have enough assets and cap to accommodate such. And we don't wanna give up any of Leks, Willander, Podz, Hogz either. A Zach Bogosian type Dman and a big winger who've been in Stanley Cup playoff battles could be all that's needed at this point. A couple of cheaper options who could boost it up a notch. Kinda' like what Higgins, Lapierre, Rome, Alberts did for us in 2011. Same schtick! It's likely management has something brewing. Could be another mindblower. Nothing surprises me with JR/PA at the helm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower102 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 21 hours ago, Iron Fist said: The price we paid was fine. I meant now people are going to have to overpay for centers like Monahan or Henrique. their price went up from a second rounder to a first plus Yeah, thats why I love the idea of moving early. A)more time to gel as a team B) if things really go sideways you can always trade them off again and recoup something C) Sets the tone for the rest of the market. If you overpay, unless its by a lot, it sets the prices the rest of the way and forces competitors to also overpay. D) drives prices up for others because its thins out the market and makes them reactionary to not miss out. I don't think Monohan is worth a 1st, not a terrible price but slight overpay they were probably hesitant about until a Western Conference competitor loaded up with the best center on the market, which happens to be the Jets biggest weakness. Now anyone looking for a center is going to overpay for someone not that good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Don't know if I would understand Philly trading away such an important piece when they're still in a playoff spot. I guess if they receive another impact player back along with other assets then it could work, but is Laughton really that expendable? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, The Lock said: Don't know if I would understand Philly trading away such an important piece when they're still in a playoff spot. I guess if they receive another impact player back along with other assets then it could work, but is Laughton really that expendable? I agree. I think it only makes sense if Philly receives an offer that completely blows them away or if they go on a losing streak in February and fall out of a playoff spot. Laughton has been one of the best 3Cs in the league for a few years now and, while not a complete steal, at $3M is pretty good value for what he brings. He's also a strong leader and a major part of Philly's leadership group. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 hours ago, The Lock said: Don't know if I would understand Philly trading away such an important piece when they're still in a playoff spot. I guess if they receive another impact player back along with other assets then it could work, but is Laughton really that expendable? Agree does a late 1st really help them … no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure10Kuzmenko96 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/1/2024 at 2:18 PM, gwarrior said: I wonder what the ask would be. Not that I want to go after him. Just curious. A lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure10Kuzmenko96 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/1/2024 at 3:18 PM, HKSR said: We actually don't really need him anymore. We're overloaded down the middle now. If anything, we could use a top 6 winger now that Kuzmenko is gone. A cheap winger in the form of Sprong, or Carcone would work. We had Carcone and let him go 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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