The Arrogant Worms Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 https://canucksarmy.com/news/how-vegas-golden-knights-ready-circumvent-cap-again-why-canucks-cant-do-same Great news, Vancouver fans! The Canucks’ strongest Pacific Division rival, the Vegas Golden Knights, just had to place their top centre, Jack Eichel, on long-term injured reserve. And with the Golden Knights already a full ten points behind the Canucks in the Pacific race, one has to think this greatly increases the odds of the Canucks taking the divisional crown and securing home-ice advantage in the playoffs. At the very least, there’s no way that this is actually somehow good news for the Golden Knights, and something that could greatly disadvantage the Canucks, right? That wouldn’t make any sense. There’s just no way that a rival losing their top centre for potentially the final two months of the season is something the Canucks should be worried about. Right? Right?! Wrong. Welcome to the zany world of the NHL salary cap and LTIR relief space, in which mile-wide loopholes exist and the league seems hesitant to close them – almost certainly because said loopholes seem to exclusively benefit the big-spending franchises, like Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUSK v2.0 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 17 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: https://canucksarmy.com/news/how-vegas-golden-knights-ready-circumvent-cap-again-why-canucks-cant-do-same Great news, Vancouver fans! The Canucks’ strongest Pacific Division rival, the Vegas Golden Knights, just had to place their top centre, Jack Eichel, on long-term injured reserve. And with the Golden Knights already a full ten points behind the Canucks in the Pacific race, one has to think this greatly increases the odds of the Canucks taking the divisional crown and securing home-ice advantage in the playoffs. At the very least, there’s no way that this is actually somehow good news for the Golden Knights, and something that could greatly disadvantage the Canucks, right? That wouldn’t make any sense. There’s just no way that a rival losing their top centre for potentially the final two months of the season is something the Canucks should be worried about. Right? Right?! Wrong. Welcome to the zany world of the NHL salary cap and LTIR relief space, in which mile-wide loopholes exist and the league seems hesitant to close them – almost certainly because said loopholes seem to exclusively benefit the big-spending franchises, like Vegas. Hey, we are almost that smart, Soucy is "down for the count" till playoffs. But I dont know why they didnt go there with Mik. I guess if his surgeries needed extra healing time we would have been investigated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 30 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: https://canucksarmy.com/news/how-vegas-golden-knights-ready-circumvent-cap-again-why-canucks-cant-do-same Great news, Vancouver fans! The Canucks’ strongest Pacific Division rival, the Vegas Golden Knights, just had to place their top centre, Jack Eichel, on long-term injured reserve. And with the Golden Knights already a full ten points behind the Canucks in the Pacific race, one has to think this greatly increases the odds of the Canucks taking the divisional crown and securing home-ice advantage in the playoffs. At the very least, there’s no way that this is actually somehow good news for the Golden Knights, and something that could greatly disadvantage the Canucks, right? That wouldn’t make any sense. There’s just no way that a rival losing their top centre for potentially the final two months of the season is something the Canucks should be worried about. Right? Right?! Wrong. Welcome to the zany world of the NHL salary cap and LTIR relief space, in which mile-wide loopholes exist and the league seems hesitant to close them – almost certainly because said loopholes seem to exclusively benefit the big-spending franchises, like Vegas. Knee surgery 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyBOI Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 they are barely cimcumventing IMO... thier playing roster is no where near the higher limit.... This is just another article to stir up drama and get the clicks... The league should allow this to continue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post N4ZZY Posted February 22 Popular Post Share Posted February 22 I'm here to say FUCK VEGAS. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie29 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I feel like the Canucks were pioneers of this method of circumvention. Back in 2011 they had so many injuries that all seemed to happen just as other players were coming back from injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 You should not be able to ice a 20 man roster in the playoffs that is over the cap. Simple as that. Loophole gone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 They're not done yet. Apparently Stone left the last game with an injury too. To VGK Jake Guentzel Noah Hanifin To Bettman $$$$$$$$$ 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sativika Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Do you mean Knights are doing such to bring them back for playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 Canucks recall Jett Woo from AHL, place Carson Soucy on LTIR General Manager Patrik Allvin announced today the following roster moves: - F Dakota Joshua placed on retroactive injured reserve - D Carson Soucy placed on retroactive LTIR - D Jett Woo recalled from Abbotsford (AHL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Well Gillis tried to circumvent the cap with the Luongo contract. Just New Jersey with the Kovalchuk contract. League ****'d us with a dead cap hit. League *LESSENED* the original penalty imposed on New Jersey....because "reasons" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoodlum Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Fuck this bush league league. If I didn't love the Canucks so much I wouldn't pay any attention to the NHL at all. Corruption and incompetence from the top down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 9 minutes ago, bhoodlum said: Fuck this bush league league. If I didn't love the Canucks so much I wouldn't pay any attention to the NHL at all. Corruption and incompetence from the top down. Still employs Colin Campbell despite written proof of him pressuring officials to rig games in favour of his son. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris12345 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 hours ago, Goalie29 said: I feel like the Canucks were pioneers of this method of circumvention. Back in 2011 they had so many injuries that all seemed to happen just as other players were coming back from injury. You are correct. The Vancouver Canucks invented this with Sami Salo leading into the trade deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Well Gillis tried to circumvent the cap with the Luongo contract. Just New Jersey with the Kovalchuk contract. League ****'d us with a dead cap hit. League *LESSENED* the original penalty imposed on New Jersey....because "reasons" not really luongo wanted to be on LTIR but benning said no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, wai_lai416 said: not really luongo wanted to be on LTIR but benning said no Do we know what the ask was from Florida? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, King Heffy said: Still employs Colin Campbell despite written proof of him pressuring officials to rig games in favour of his son. link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, Hammertime said: link https://bleacherreport.com/articles/519838-irresponsible-media-the-colin-campbell-saga-that-has-been-swept-under-the-rug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 6 minutes ago, Hammertime said: Do we know what the ask was from Florida? prolly nothing to minimal? like you think florida would rather have a cap recapture even if it's not much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 8 hours ago, Hammertime said: Knee surgery Canucks should hire Moe to take care of this situation Edited February 22 by iinatcc 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCanuck12 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 hours ago, King Heffy said: Still employs Colin Campbell despite written proof of him pressuring officials to rig games in favour of his son. Ah yes, Colin Campbell. Another one of our beloved Canucks alumni! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Solution. New CBA players get paid in the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Cap mandatory compliance once the season starts until the end of the Stanley Cup finals. Teams can't use the playoffs as an excuse to get around the cap. NHL and owners will hate it. Players will love it. Teams will have to get compliant and STAY compliant. You basically have the offseason and the end of the preseason to get your cap in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Solution. New CBA players get paid in the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Cap mandatory compliance once the season starts until the end of the Stanley Cup finals. Teams can't use the playoffs as an excuse to get around the cap. NHL and owners will hate it. Players will love it. Teams will have to get compliant and STAY compliant. You basically have the offseason and the end of the preseason to get your cap in order. Or as simple as the starting lineup must be cap compliant. The intention of the LTIR is to be able to replace an injured player, so if VGK trades for Guentzel to replace Stone, and Stone comes back for the playoffs, they should need to decide how to allocate that cap. Stone or Guentzel? Not BOTH, which is just ridiculous the way it is right now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, HKSR said: Or as simple as the starting lineup must be cap compliant. The intention of the LTIR is to be able to replace an injured player, so if VGK trades for Guentzel to replace Stone, and Stone comes back for the playoffs, they should need to decide how to allocate that cap. Stone or Guentzel? Not BOTH, which is just ridiculous the way it is right now. Well the excuse has been once the playoffs start the players aren't getting paid, so there's no salaries to be compliant to. It's a weak ass excuse. But it's still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: Well the excuse has been once the playoffs start the players aren't getting paid, so there's no salaries to be compliant to. It's a weak ass excuse. But it's still there. That's a terrible excuse. The intention of the salary cap was for the sake of parity across the league. Take that away and you get teams like VGK or TBL with cumulative cap hits of $100m for the playoffs. We all can see it so clearly, yet the NHL turns a blind eye. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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