RupertKBD Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 2 hours ago, Darius said: Classy move here by Keefe going on twitter with a message: Next on Sheldon's To-Do list is go to the movies: Spoiler 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 9 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Notice how Toronto waited for Ottawa to hire Green. They didn't want Keefe defecting to another Ontario team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat land fish Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Until they balance their salary between forwards and defenceman doesn't matter who the coach is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 I would think plenty. I'd start with big egos, but what do I know... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 5 hours ago, Bob Long said: Soon Marner shall be a penguin. I had a dream, he ended up being a Canuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarke Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 2 hours ago, Coconuts said: No matter how good a coach is at any given time, they aren't likely to be coaching there for long Franchises are more seemingly more willing to can coaches than ever Am I the only one who had to google to find out who Andre Tourigny was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 5 hours ago, Bounce000 said: The Leafs blow up begins... The Shannaplan isn't working out so well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Are they still ahead in their rebuild? At least they have their cost certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 3 hours ago, gwarrior said: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, Toronto loses AGAIN, dosen't change any of the core and fires another coach. Ok. #1: That core is almost impossible to move because of cap, term, and clauses. #2: They are definitely going to force a trade anyway. Based off the interviews I think Marner has accepted his fate and will waive his NMC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyville88 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 I’m happy for him. He needs to take some time to take care of himself and hopefully end up in the market that isn’t such a pressure cooker. He looks like a totally different person from when he took the job in Toronto 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 26 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: #1: That core is almost impossible to move because of cap, term, and clauses. #2: They are definitely going to force a trade anyway. Based off the interviews I think Marner has accepted his fate and will waive his NMC. After another early exit, I'd want to get the hell outta there too. We think the media here is bad......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 12 minutes ago, gwarrior said: After another early exit, I'd want to get the hell outta there too. We think the media here is bad......... No he just gets the situation he is in and placed himself in. Marner's a hometown guy who grew up a Leafs fan and now he's about to get chased off the team. I'm sympathetic to an extent to anyone who wants to play for their home team and eventually has to leave, no matter the circumstances. Sometimes it just isn't meant to be. I think this series loss was the final straw for this core. Now it's time to re-tool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 8 hours ago, HKSR said: Something like Marner to SEA for Larsson and Bjorkstrand would be a good start. They need a defensive anchor like Larsson to settle down their D core. No idea how they acquire a top tier goalie though. I wonder if Ryan Pulock would consider trading his NTC for Toronto. A Marner for Pulock (plus some additional salary) swap could benefit both teams. Pulock would probably be a really good partner for Morgan Rielly and Marner would give a huge offense boost to the Islanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 hours ago, Miss Korea said: No he just gets the situation he is in and placed himself in. Marner's a hometown guy who grew up a Leafs fan and now he's about to get chased off the team. I'm sympathetic to an extent to anyone who wants to play for their home team and eventually has to leave, no matter the circumstances. Sometimes it just isn't meant to be. I think this series loss was the final straw for this core. Now it's time to re-tool. Marner will be really good on a new club. Imagine him with Petey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 4 hours ago, Miss Korea said: No he just gets the situation he is in and placed himself in. Marner's a hometown guy who grew up a Leafs fan and now he's about to get chased off the team. I'm sympathetic to an extent to anyone who wants to play for their home team and eventually has to leave, no matter the circumstances. Sometimes it just isn't meant to be. I think this series loss was the final straw for this core. Now it's time to re-tool. I don't think he's getting chased off the team. He didn't have a great season and had a worse playoffs. He's getting paid $11 million. Vancouver fans are being just as critical about Petey right now. But Petey isn't technically getting paid $11 million yet. Plus, Petey is actually contributing defensively in the playoffs, is a centre who is over 50% in the dot and seems to be doing more than Marner. Marner is way overpaid as a winger IMO. He's not in the same stratosphere as Kucherov, Pastrnak, Panarin or even Rantanen. Even Nylander is a better overall player than Marner IMO. Marner will definitely want to get out of TO now. He's pretty much a goner anyways next summer as Toronto will need to use that cap space to get a goalie and improve the defence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Marner out, defence in. They might be worth a damn next year. Will be interesting to see which way they go with coaching though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 5 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I don't think he's getting chased off the team. He didn't have a great season and had a worse playoffs. He's getting paid $11 million. Vancouver fans are being just as critical about Petey right now. But Petey isn't technically getting paid $11 million yet. Plus, Petey is actually contributing defensively in the playoffs, is a centre who is over 50% in the dot and seems to be doing more than Marner. Marner is way overpaid as a winger IMO. He's not in the same stratosphere as Kucherov, Pastrnak, Panarin or even Rantanen. Even Nylander is a better overall player than Marner IMO. Marner will definitely want to get out of TO now. He's pretty much a goner anyways next summer as Toronto will need to use that cap space to get a goalie and improve the defence. I think Marner is resigned to his fate. He realizes the situation Toronto is in, as well as him playing like complete shit in the playoffs. He knows he's gone and he expressed his sadness to it. As someone who grew up in Toronto his whole life and got drafted by his hometown club, it must be unsettling for Marner to have to brace himself for a move. That's all I'm saying. Marner is probably going to be moved this summer. And I'm sympathetic to the anxiety he must be feeling. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 minute ago, JeremyCuddles said: Marner out, defence in. They might be worth a damn next year. Will be interesting to see which way they go with coaching though. They should go hard after Craig Berube. He is the best choice out there, played a few games for Toronto back in the day, and has already won a cup with St. Louis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 9 hours ago, Coconuts said: Shanna-plannin' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 5 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: I think Marner is resigned to his fate. He realizes the situation Toronto is in, as well as him playing like complete shit in the playoffs. He knows he's gone and he expressed his sadness to it. As someone who grew up in Toronto his whole life and got drafted by his hometown club, it must be unsettling for Marner to have to brace himself for a move. That's all I'm saying. Marner is probably going to be moved this summer. And I'm sympathetic to the anxiety he must be feeling. True, but he had the hometown experience. Freed from the pressure that brings he might just be a beast for a team like Pittsburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 3 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: They should go hard after Craig Berube. He is the best choice out there, played a few games for Toronto back in the day, and has already won a cup with St. Louis. Wish Buffalo went after Berube. Cozens publicly said they need a sterner message in the locker room. Berube sort of brings that. I guess so does Lindy, but I think he's getting to the point of being too old for this generation. But we'll see. Toronto should go after him too. Again, adding a responsible tough mind should help toughen up that team. Choking all these first rounds has to be some kind of mental hurdle they can't get over. I think teams are looking at Vancouver and Philly and realizing tough two way minded coaches are in vogue right now. Philly by all rights should have been a Celebrini team, especially with their goaltending situation. Torts is a magician no matter what folks say about him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammaInTheTub Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 5 minutes ago, Bob Long said: True, but he had the hometown experience. Freed from the pressure that brings he might just be a beast for a team like Pittsburgh. He could always Luke Schenn it too. Goodbye for now but not forever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 4 minutes ago, GrammaInTheTub said: He could always Luke Schenn it too. Goodbye for now but not forever. Sometimes playing in your hometown is bad for guys, I do think it's a part of why Virtanen went sideways. I'm guessing, but I bet the guys that experience this mid or late career handle it better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 6 hours ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: I had a dream, he ended up being a Canuck God why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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