RWJC Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Snapshots: Hronek, Mikheyev, Okhotyuk, Abramov May 23rd, 2024 at 8:29pm CST • By Brian La Rose Still with Vancouver, Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman suggested in the latest 32 Thoughts podcast (audio link) that the Canucks might consider buying out Ilya Mikheyev this offseason. The 29-year-old wound up with a respectable 11 goals and 20 assists in 78 games this season but his production cratered as the year went on as he managed just a single tally and nine helpers in his final 45 regular season and was held off the scoresheet altogether in 11 playoff contests. Mikheyev has two years left on his deal that carries a $4.75MM AAV; a buyout would carry a cap charge of $1.15MM next season, $2.15MM in 2025-26, and $1.55MM for two more years after that. https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/05/snapshots-hronek-mikheyev-okhotyuk-abramov.html#ref=home 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RWJC Posted May 24 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 24 Just add the required pick and trade the guy. We dont need any more dead cap. 10 1 4 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 2 minutes ago, RWJC said: Just add the required pick and trade the guy. We dont need any more dead cap. We’ve traded too many picks. Id be good with those cap hits as we will have cheap replacements likely ready by year two of that buyout. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RWJC Posted May 24 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 24 Just now, DeNiro said: We’ve traded too many picks. Id be good with those cap hits as we will have cheap replacements likely ready by year two of that buyout. I hear ya but we’re now a cup contender. We require cap space more than 3-4 year project pieces that can be recouped later as we offload assets and replace them going forward, no? 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted May 24 Popular Post Share Posted May 24 Just now, RWJC said: I hear ya but we’re now a cup contender. We require cap space more than 3-4 year project pieces that can be recouped later as we offload assets and replace them going forward, no? I’d rather save those picks for deadline deals. That buyout would save us 3.6 mil next season. That’s like enough to re-sign Joshua and Blueger right there. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 (edited) 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: I’d rather save those picks for deadline deals. That buyout would save us 3.6 mil next season. That’s like enough to re-sign Joshua and Blueger right there. Yeah fair point. Either way I’m happy to hear we’re looking to move on and not sitting on our hands with that contract. That said it’s still just speculation from Friedman at this point. Edited May 24 by RWJC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 We aren’t considering buying out Mik. He’s a very good middle six winger when healthy. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain insano Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 If those picks pan out they are ELCs and keeping the team competitive down the road solving possibly much bigger future problems than Mik is to us right now…. Some very tough decisions management has to make coming up and I can’t but help be on board with whatever they decide so much confidence in our front office, fingers crossed hronek gets us back in the first round next month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 32 minutes ago, RWJC said: Just add the required pick and trade the guy. We dont need any more dead cap. While there will always be rebuilding teams who will take bad contracts. With the Coyotes relocating to Salt Lake City to presumably try to be competitive the League's perennial garbage can for bad contracts appears to have closed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Just trade him to Shitcago, they like their bloated contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Just play him and see if he can come back Garland-style, I'd be surprised if he COULDN'T make it back to his form. Seeing Conor and Boeser rebound to form gives me hope. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gurn Posted May 24 Popular Post Share Posted May 24 From Cap Friendly: TOTAL $3,496,667 $6,916,667 $6,316,667 $3,676,667 $2,126,667 $2,126,667 Ilya Mikheyev $1,150,000 $2,150,000 $1,550,000 $1,550,000 Oliver Ekman-Larsson $2,346,667 $4,766,667 $4,766,667 $2,126,667 $2,126,667 $2,126,667 I'm more inclined to keep him, I expect a better year from him. Fully healthy, and recovered from his leg issues. 1 1 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Surely with the cap going up we can trade a pick or two and have someone else buy him out. Mik was a significant mistake from management. I think we are better off tempering our expectations and playing him in a Garland (pre 2024) like role where he is an expensive bottom 6 forward and just let his deal run out. Maybe he refinds his game. The guy is just not that bad other than the fact that he can't finish for shit. Maybe one summer working on his shot would work wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KoreanHockeyFan Posted May 24 Popular Post Share Posted May 24 Give him another year. He came off major knee surgery. This summer will be the first summer where he can focus on training rather than rehabbing. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 I had a feeling this would be a possibility. He can’t play in the top 6 and is too expensive for the bottom 6. I think Allvin buys him out which frees up $3.6 million to try and re-sign Big Z, Joshua and hopefully Lindholm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, Sell.the.team said: Surely with the cap going up we can trade a pick or two and have someone else buy him out. Mik was a significant mistake from management. I think we are better off tempering our expectations and playing him in a Garland (pre 2024) like role where he is an expensive bottom 6 forward and just let his deal run out. Maybe he refinds his game. The guy is just not that bad other than the fact that he can't finish for shit. Maybe one summer working on his shot would work wonders. We already have a great 3rd line if they all come back. Mikheyev would have to play on the 4th line which isn’t going to happen. Allvin isn’t dumb enough to think Mikheyev can play in the top 6. He even admitted that in the press conference. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 @HKSR So if they buy out Mikheyev, technically he wouldn’t be traded. So our friendly bet is voided. No Garland avatar for me… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: @HKSR So if they buy out Mikheyev, technically he wouldn’t be traded. So our friendly bet is voided. No Garland avatar for me… Oh you just wait. It's gonna happen my friend lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: @HKSR So if they buy out Mikheyev, technically he wouldn’t be traded. So our friendly bet is voided. No Garland avatar for me… Oh you just wait. It's gonna happen my friend lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: @HKSR So if they buy out Mikheyev, technically he wouldn’t be traded. So our friendly bet is voided. No Garland avatar for me… Oh you just wait. It's gonna happen my friend lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 21 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: We already have a great 3rd line if they all come back. Mikheyev would have to play on the 4th line which isn’t going to happen. Allvin isn’t dumb enough to think Mikheyev can play in the top 6. He even admitted that in the press conference. I think that our "great 3rd line" could easily be a second line. Garland deserves top 6 minutes. So does Lindholm. Dak didn't have the best playoffs but he had some big moments and has shown he can be a skill guy. I think giving up on him now is the wrong idea. The dead cap over the next 3 years is brutal if we buy him out now. Just cause he had a poor playoffs doesn't mean he can't salvage his career. And if management determines that they really cant keep him we are better to pay the piper and trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted May 24 Popular Post Share Posted May 24 @HKSR You got so excited you had to post it 3 times… 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 49 minutes ago, Alflives said: We aren’t considering buying out Mik. He’s a very good middle six winger when healthy. But can he be healthy again? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, Sell.the.team said: I think that our "great 3rd line" could easily be a second line. Garland deserves top 6 minutes. So does Lindholm. Dak didn't have the best playoffs but he had some big moments and has shown he can be a skill guy. I think giving up on him now is the wrong idea. The dead cap over the next 3 years is brutal if we buy him out now. Just cause he had a poor playoffs doesn't mean he can't salvage his career. And if management determines that they really cant keep him we are better to pay the piper and trade him. Of course we aren’t buying out Mik. Eastern media making a suggestion of something we could do. Not any fact to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Just now, Bob Long said: But can he be healthy again? If not then we send him to Robidau Island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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