[Proposal] - Anthony Beauvillier to Chicago for Nikita Zaitsev

[RJCF96]

Both Anthony Beauvillier and Nikita Zaitsev are set to become UFAs in the summer of 2024. 

 

Beauvillier with a caphit of $4.125 million

Zaitsev with a $4.5 million caphit

 

This is a bandaid solution to our lack of depth in defense. Zaitsev at the very least is a NHL level defenseman (although, not a very good one) but is capapble fo playing 14-16 min of uneventful hockey unlike Juulsen).

 

Chicago can put Beauvillier on their top 6 to boost his stats and then flip him for a prospect or pick a the deadline.

 

Both teams are shipping out UFA caphit contracts. Canucks would be trading from a position of strength to address an area of weakness on the team.

 

This way, we won't have to play Juulsen for 6-8 weeks while Soucy is out of the line up.

[Miss Korea]

Nikita Zaitsev is a pure cap dump.  Bear in mind Ottawa waived him last year and he cleared.  Then they had to offer Chicago a 2nd and 4th round pick just so they could take him for free.

 

 

He has already been scratched multiple games this year in favour of 20 and 21 year old defencemen.  He is likely a worse option than Friedman and Juulsen.

[Pears]

I'd rather just hold on to Beauvillier. 

[Alflives]

[Elias Pettersson]

58 minutes ago, Miss Korea said:

Nikita Zaitsev is a pure cap dump.  Bear in mind Ottawa waived him last year and he cleared.  Then they had to offer Chicago a 2nd and 4th round pick just so they could take him for free.

 

 

He has already been scratched multiple games this year in favour of 20 and 21 year old defencemen.  He is likely a worse option than Friedman and Juulsen.

So Zaitsev is worse than Alex Edler?

[AK-19]

6 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

So Zaitsev is worse than Alex Edler?

Good point, might as well just sign Edler. 

[Miss Korea]

41 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

So Zaitsev is worse than Alex Edler?

 

35 minutes ago, AK-19 said:

Good point, might as well just sign Edler. 

That is by far the best idea you guys have come up with today!

Edited November 19, 2023 by Miss Korea

[VegasCanuck]

3 hours ago, RJCF96 said:

Both Anthony Beauvillier and Nikita Zaitsev are set to become UFAs in the summer of 2024. 

 

Beauvillier with a caphit of $4.125 million

Zaitsev with a $4.5 million caphit

 

This is a bandaid solution to our lack of depth in defense. Zaitsev at the very least is a NHL level defenseman (although, not a very good one) but is capapble fo playing 14-16 min of uneventful hockey unlike Juulsen).

 

Chicago can put Beauvillier on their top 6 to boost his stats and then flip him for a prospect or pick a the deadline.

 

Both teams are shipping out UFA caphit contracts. Canucks would be trading from a position of strength to address an area of weakness on the team.

 

This way, we won't have to play Juulsen for 6-8 weeks while Soucy is out of the line up.

Pass, I think we'd be better off getting someone living under a bridge to play defense. Zaitsev is not a player or contract that we want. 

 

He's not showing as being part of Chicago's active roster although he's not showing as injured either.

 

Remember, the trade that sent him to Chicago was Ottaway paying a 2nd and a 4th to get Chicago to take the contract last year in exchange for Future Considerations. The future considerations is likely,

 

"Hey, when we have a guy who should be manning the hotdog stand instead of playing on the ice and you have cap space and we don't, you do the same favor for us...."

 

 

[VegasCanuck]

56 minutes ago, AK-19 said:

Good point, might as well just sign Edler. 

I would take Edler on a league minimum contract for the rest of the year to finish his career here and give us a little extra depth. I mean, it's not an awesome option, but in limited minutes, he'd be a reasonable penalty killer for us, is good at clearing the net!

[King Heffy]

Zaitsev is not an NHL defenceman.  The only teams he'd be a regular on are Toronto and Edmonton.

[PeteyBOI]

1 hour ago, King Heffy said:

Zaitsev is not an NHL defenceman.  The only teams he'd be a regular on are Toronto and Edmonton.

no... he has a 3% war... that mean for every 1000 games he plays he would help his team more on average of 30 games vs a career depth player...  

Edited November 20, 2023 by Dankmemes187

[King Heffy]

3 minutes ago, Dankmemes187 said:

no... he has a 3% war... that mean for every 1000 games he plays he would help his team more on average of 30 games vs a career depth player...  

At some point, people have to realize that the idiots who make up these statistics have zero understanding of the sport.  No one in their right mind thinks Zaitsev has ever belonged in the NHL.

[PeteyBOI]

5 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

At some point, people have to realize that the idiots who make up these statistics have zero understanding of the sport.  No one in their right mind thinks Zaitsev has ever belonged in the NHL.

i mean 3% is pretty low right? its basically suggesting he is exactly the worst 6th defenceman in the nhl... not too far off right? for a defenceman anything lower than 3% would be depth

Edited November 20, 2023 by Dankmemes187

[King Heffy]

3 minutes ago, Dankmemes187 said:

i mean 3% is pretty low right? its basically suggesting he is exactly the worst 6th defenceman in the nhl... not too far off right? for a defenceman anything lower than 3% would be depth

Not low enough.  Regardless, it's a useless stat made up by people who are not qualified to evaluate players.  The sooner we stop taking this trash seriously, the better.

[Phil_314]

I find it tough to believe that Zaitsev could be worse than what Juulsen became when he struggled to hold down a spot in the lineup.

[higgyfan]

The Canucks are likely making the playoffs this season, so the best case scenario is to get as

much game experience as possible.  Next year they will take the next step; perhaps becoming

a contender, then continue to make adjustments on the team to reach their final goal.

 

If they want to reach this season's goal, they need to invest in a 2nd rd and add some grit.

They may also need depth players, but the target needs to be bigger talent.

 

I think they will have to include this season's 1st + whatever (to add Beau cap dump) if they

want a proper 2rd.  Hopefully this player has a contract that had term for 2-3yrs.

 

It's hard to determine whether this is a trade that has to be done now or later on.  Depends

on how the team is performing.

[Jeremy Hronek]

7 hours ago, RJCF96 said:

Both Anthony Beauvillier and Nikita Zaitsev are set to become UFAs in the summer of 2024. 

 

Beauvillier with a caphit of $4.125 million

Zaitsev with a $4.5 million caphit

 

This is a bandaid solution to our lack of depth in defense. Zaitsev at the very least is a NHL level defenseman (although, not a very good one) but is capapble fo playing 14-16 min of uneventful hockey unlike Juulsen).

 

Chicago can put Beauvillier on their top 6 to boost his stats and then flip him for a prospect or pick a the deadline.

 

Both teams are shipping out UFA caphit contracts. Canucks would be trading from a position of strength to address an area of weakness on the team.

 

This way, we won't have to play Juulsen for 6-8 weeks while Soucy is out of the line up.

 

Hard pass. 

 

Zaitsev sucks.  

[PeteyBOI]

On 11/19/2023 at 7:16 PM, King Heffy said:

Not low enough.  Regardless, it's a useless stat made up by people who are not qualified to evaluate players.  The sooner we stop taking this trash seriously, the better.

stats are useful, and they are hardly wrong unless collected poorly... You just must not rely on them. I like TOI and offensive/defensive starts compared with Quality of competition. You can get into the coaches mind on who is the strongest on each team... these are the three most important stats before you can even begin quantify any other data, including goals and assists.

[PeteyBOI]

On 11/19/2023 at 7:23 PM, Phil_314 said:

I find it tough to believe that Zaitsev could be worse than what Juulsen became when he struggled to hold down a spot in the lineup.

he is when you consider his salary

[higgyfan]

I still think Peeke is the perfect trade for Beau +

 

The Jackets have a solid defence, but their top 6 wingers are underperforming, or downright awful.

Beau has become a better 2-way player since joining the Canucks, but needs to play on a team's

top 6 to be the offensive player he has proven to be in the past.

 

I think Peeke's game could improve substantially with the help of the Canuck's defence coaches,

as well as the team's new system/structure.  He is certainly the right age and has a great contract.

 

The Jackets get              The Canucks get

Beau + 1st                        Peeke 25yrs $2.75x3 + 2nd

 

Peeke  doesn't fit the Jacket's team, but he isn't a cap dump.  They are still a rebuilding team,

so they may be interested in the 1st.  Beau will probably help them out, but he is a low risk UFA

and depending on how he plays in Columbus, he might get a 3rd at TDL.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 21, 2023 by higgyfan

[cripplereh]

11 hours ago, higgyfan said:

I still think Peeke is the perfect trade for Beau +

 

The Jackets have a solid defence, but their top 6 wingers are underperforming, or downright awful.

Beau has become a better 2-way player since joining the Canucks, but needs to play on a team's

top 6 to be the offensive player he has proven to be in the past.

 

I think Peeke's game could improve substantially with the help of the Canuck's defence coaches,

as well as the team's new system/structure.  He is certainly the right age and has a great contract.

 

The Jackets get              The Canucks get

Beau + 1st                        Peeke 25yrs $2.75x3 + 2nd

 

Peeke  doesn't fit the Jacket's team, but he isn't a cap dump.  They are still a rebuilding team,

so they may be interested in the 1st.  Beau will probably help them out, but he is a low risk UFA

and depending on how he plays in Columbus, he might get a 3rd at TDL.

 

 

 

 

A first NO thank you would rather let Beau walk in the summer.