Jim McMahon Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 The Bear talks can now be settled. Maybe this can get merged with the Ethan Bear talks thread. 1 1 1 Quote
Popular Post Ghostsof1915 Posted December 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2023 Good luck Bear. 3 7 Quote
PeteyBOI Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 probably we matched that price... Bear just likely thought being a 7th defenceman wasnt good for him 1 Quote
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted December 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2023 30 minutes ago, MidKnight Ego said: probably we matched that price... Bear just likely thought being a 7th defenceman wasnt good for him I highly doubt we matched that price. Juulsen is better and he’s at $775k. 9 2 6 1 2 Quote
Popular Post Jess Posted December 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2023 Not sure I've ever seen a contract go to the fourth digit past millions. Needed that extra $500 per year 6 1 Quote
Jeremy Hronek Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 Bear likely would've been a reserve player in Vancouver (i.e. 7th defenseman) once Soucy had gotten healthy and so I'm glad that Bear will get more of an opportunity elsewhere. 4 Quote
Mackcanuck Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 Good for him, Happy for him Hope he does well Quote
Boudrias Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 Glad a got a decent contract. I happy with Juulson and the CAP flex PA has to possibly do another deal. 1 1 Quote
Popular Post Goal_thecup Posted December 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2023 Like Bear the person; glad some other team is paying him too much. 1 3 2 Quote
Popular Post Thundernuts Posted December 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2023 Good luck Bear. Served us well last year, and would have been good depth for this season, but glad management took a pass on that contract. It’s already going to be tricky to get under the cap next year. 1 4 1 Quote
Popular Post gwarrior Posted December 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2023 He's all yours Washington 2 3 1 Quote
Bob Long Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 A lot of drama for this deal, but good for him. I haven't followed the caps at all this year or why they were willing to go term, are they trading someone else? 1 1 Quote
Maniwaki Canuck Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 Not sure we could have matched that offer so they scooped us fair and square. It's not some crazy over-pay. Best of luck, Ethan. Quote
Crabcakes Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 Ken Holland gave Bear a 2 year, $4.0M contract (1.5, 2.5) and in the 2nd year he was moved to Carolina. The following year, he went to arbitration and got $2.2 and was eventually sent to Vancouver with 400k salary retained. Now, he has signed in Wash for $2.06M. This is what happens when 3rd pair quality D are given too much money. It does nobody any favours. Credit to Allvin for not caving and paying $2M+ on a multiple year deal for a 3rd pair D. Word was, Allvin wanted to sign him but at closer to $1M. He let Schenn go who ended up with 3 @ 2.75 in Nashville. 2 Quote
Popular Post EdgarM Posted December 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2023 I tried to tell many on here that he wasn't in our plans as he became redundant when Hronek arrived. Like many have said, we now have usable dmen who cost way less. I sure like how this management group manages this roster. 1 5 1 Quote
Popular Post Alflives Posted December 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2023 53 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: Ken Holland gave Bear a 2 year, $4.0M contract (1.5, 2.5) and in the 2nd year he was moved to Carolina. The following year, he went to arbitration and got $2.2 and was eventually sent to Vancouver with 400k salary retained. Now, he has signed in Wash for $2.06M. This is what happens when 3rd pair quality D are given too much money. It does nobody any favours. Credit to Allvin for not caving and paying $2M+ on a multiple year deal for a 3rd pair D. Word was, Allvin wanted to sign him but at closer to $1M. He let Schenn go who ended up with 3 @ 2.75 in Nashville. Yup. Schenn is craperolla away from Quinn Hughes. And Bear will now suck pucks too. 6 Quote
NewbieCanuckFan Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Crabcakes said: Ken Holland gave Bear a 2 year, $4.0M contract (1.5, 2.5) and in the 2nd year he was moved to Carolina. The following year, he went to arbitration and got $2.2 and was eventually sent to Vancouver with 400k salary retained. Now, he has signed in Wash for $2.06M. This is what happens when 3rd pair quality D are given too much money. It does nobody any favours. Credit to Allvin for not caving and paying $2M+ on a multiple year deal for a 3rd pair D. Word was, Allvin wanted to sign him but at closer to $1M. He let Schenn go who ended up with 3 @ 2.75 in Nashville. That's a Jim Benning type of move (eg., Poolman). 1 1 Quote
AK-19 Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: That's a Jim Benning type of move (eg., Poolman). Also Jordie Benn. 1 Quote
Rekker Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 47 minutes ago, EdgarM said: I tried to tell many on here that he wasn't in our plans as he became redundant when Hronek arrived. Like many have said, we now have usable dmen who cost way less. I sure like how this management group manages this roster. I think it was more a case of Juulsen coming into his own that ousted Bear. If Juulsen didn't find some game the Canucks would of been more desperate for a righty like Bear. Juulsen is still a work in progress but for a tough, solid number six, seven righty, he's found money. Bear would of been battling Juulsen for the bottom spot and Alvin isn't in position to pay 2 million per year cap hit when Juulsen can do it for half that. 3 Quote
EdgarM Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Rekker said: I think it was more a case of Juulsen coming into his own that ousted Bear. If Juulsen didn't find some game the Canucks would of been more desperate for a righty like Bear. Juulsen is still a work in progress but for a tough, solid number six, seven righty, he's found money. Bear would of been battling Juulsen for the bottom spot and Alvin isn't in position to pay 2 million per year cap hit when Juulsen can do it for half that. I think if Bear had a chance of making this team then you are correct. He was not getting into the top 4 unless there was injuries. He would had to have accepted a minimum entry level contract for us to sign him and I didn't see him accepting that. A slim to none chance he was coming back to this club. 1 Quote
HKSR Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 Well, what can I say... needs vs wants fellas. Need vs want... 3 Quote
Nucker67 Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 It's nice to know that Bear isn't good enough to crack that Canucks D core. Good days ahead! 1 1 1 Quote
canucks curse Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 That’s an overpay to me I would for sure go 2 years but not that high aav imo that’s more than a million a year too much but not oh boy am I happy for Bear and he deserves it for what he has been through, not necessarily what he has shown on the ice but hey good on him Quote
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