Bob Long Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Isn’t BT best friends with Quinn Hughes? Love to get BT here. oh yep. If we can somehow add him and not lose Petey, holy crap. So as in all things, what the price? I'd be fine with moving Lekkerimaki, another 1st... thats not enough so what else can we legitimately add? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I'll be surprised if he goes anywhere, he's not the sort of player teams want to move and the acquisition cost would likely be astronomical given he's locked for another four seasons at 8.2M It'd be odd if they knew he didn't want to be a Senator going forward this far out unless he's requested a trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I get that Janssen and Strickland have NHL ties but after poking around reddit and twitter I've yet to find anything that doesn't look like baseless speculation or talk meant to drive engagement I've yet to come across anything from the more reputable insiders who break or share significant news If there was something to this you'd think there'd be more chatter amongst the larger insiders who do hockey media for a living Even the original bit podcast bit says Ottawa "may have" kicked the tires on what a potential return might look, they even say he hasn't asked for a trade This isn't the type of player Ottawa should be moving, if they can address their bleeding goals they're likely a playoff team next season imo 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, MeanSeanBean said: Counterpoint, we were a non-playoff team with Horvat, and a playoff team with Hronek. Obviously it is far more complicated then that, but why wouldn't the Sens see the success of us diversifying the roster and focusing on more structured play, and think hell we can do that. Maybe the trade is Hronek and Lek or something. But I see a world where Hronek to the Sens actually makes a ton of sense. I don't think Hronek was the tipping point for us to become one of the best teams in the league. That had more to do with coaching and structure, redoing the entire defence not just Hronek, plus the transformation of Miller into arguably the best all around centre in the NHL. Not to mention the emergence of Joshua and adding Blueger to have one of the best 3rd lines in hockey. Hronek is a complimentary piece, same as Boeser. He has helped Hughes for sure, but I don't think he is the main reason we are Stanley Cup contender. Do you really think that Ottawa will be a better team if they lose Tkachuk and gain Hronek and Hoglander? I don't. They will be worse IMO. No matter who they trade for they will be a worse team, as Tkachuk will always be the best player in the trade. Same as if we had traded Petey. We would have been a worse team without him... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 33 minutes ago, Bob Long said: oh yep. If we can somehow add him and not lose Petey, holy crap. So as in all things, what the price? I'd be fine with moving Lekkerimaki, another 1st... thats not enough so what else can we legitimately add? Hronek and Ottawa adds Zub? Hronek + Lekkerimaki + 2025 first for BT + Zub 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Hronek and Ottawa adds Zub? Hronek + Lekkerimaki + 2025 first for BT + Zub I don't think that gets it done if you want Zub as well. And we would need Zub if we are trading Hronek, unless we are planning to play Juulsen with Hughes. You'd have to throw in Willander as well into the deal. It's like trading Petey. Are you trading Petey for Hronek, Lekkerimaki and a 1st? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: I don't think that gets it done if you want Zub as well. And we would need Zub if we are trading Hronek, unless we are planning to play Juulsen with Hughes. You'd have to throw in Willander as well into the deal. It's like trading Petey. Are you trading Petey for Hronek, Lekkerimaki and a 1st? BT is a rare player but Cowpieville only got two old craperolla players for his brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: BT is a rare player but Cowpieville only got two old craperolla players for his brother. Brady is better than Matthew... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I don't think that gets it done if you want Zub as well. And we would need Zub if we are trading Hronek, unless we are planning to play Juulsen with Hughes. You'd have to throw in Willander as well into the deal. It's like trading Petey. Are you trading Petey for Hronek, Lekkerimaki and a 1st? If the strange event that Tkachuk was on the table you've got the think the Sens would be looking for a lateral move too, not a trade mostly comprised of futures. They'd likely want a similar tier forward of similar age back. They're a team that can score, trading Tkachuk for futures isn't going to get them to the playoffs sooner than later. Hronek isn't even the sort of D they should be targeting, they need more D whose bread and butter is suppressing goals. Edited April 14 by Coconuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Mik + Hronek + 1st 2025 + Lekkerimaki for Tkachuck. Then have a lineup of… Hogz EP Tkachuk Podz Miller Boeser Joshua Blueger Garland Laff Suter PDG Aman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 It’s a story about a man named Brady. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kettlevalley Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I would like Brady. But things I would trade and things you guys would trade are very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
404error Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 (edited) I don’t think you get Brady without giving them Petey. You end up getting another piece back and cap space. Tkachuk would be exactly what you need come playoffs Edited April 14 by 404error 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, 404error said: I’m don’t think you get Brady without giving them Petey. You end up getting another piece back and cap space. Tkachuk would be exactly what you need come playoffs BT + Pinto + 2024 first for Petey. Or they can F-Off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Sounds like someone's imagination. Last interview I saw with Brady he said he loves playing for the Sens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 4 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: Sounds like someone's imagination. Last interview I saw with Brady he said he loves playing for the Sens. Yup, trading Brady isn't likely at all unless he actually wants out, which hasn't been reported as being the case. He's frustrated, absolutely, but every player who misses the playoffs is probably frustrated about losing. Frustration is a nothing burger unless there's actually something credible about him wanting out attached to it, which there doesn't seem to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 8 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Yup, trading Brady isn't likely at all unless he actually wants out, which hasn't been reported as being the case. He's frustrated, absolutely, but every player who misses the playoffs is probably frustrated about losing. Frustration is a nothing burger unless there's actually something credible about him wanting out attached to it, which there doesn't seem to be. This. Brady is a pipe dream and we just don't have the assets a trade for him would require. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grinch Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Brady is exactly who we need for the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Shackleford Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Get'r done PA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 5 hours ago, Gurn said: 24 years old and plays left wing, first rounder 4rth overall in 2018 draft He's played basically full seasons over the last 3 years. with 5 out of 6 being 71 games minimum--- 1 season of 56 games-can't remember the injury NHL Totals 438 162 186 348 625 Edit to add 4 more years, after this, at $8,205,714 per. That was the Covid year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) Sorry folks, but if BT is put on the block, there are teams that will present much better deals than what is being proposed from our end here. it’s not just meeting the criteria for what OTT is looking for, it’s the competition bids that would drive our cost right up. If I’m OTT, imho im not even trading BT for EP straight across because I believe OTT could get even more elsewhere Edited April 15 by RWJC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain insano Posted April 15 Author Share Posted April 15 22 minutes ago, RWJC said: Sorry folks, but if BT is put on the block, there are teams that will present much better deals than what is being proposed from our end here. it’s not just meeting the criteria for what OTT is looking for, it’s the competition bids that would drive our cost right up. If I’m OTT, imho im not even trading BT for EP straight across because I believe OTT could get even more elsewhere And what player better than Petey would be offered up? I just don’t see Alvin moving out a centre for a winger, centre depth wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohthehumanity Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Petey for Brady! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCanuck12 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 10 minutes ago, Ohthehumanity said: Petey for Brady! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCanuck12 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Try and guess which player Tocchet woud pick for his team, if he had the choice: Petey or Tkachuk..........Hmmmmm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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